Transwomen are not Women - Part 15

smartcooky said:
If Liberals (Labour in my county, Democrats in the US) ever want to gain power again, they really need to get themselves out of this transgender self ID hole they have dug themselves into.
Click to expand...
Seeing odd bits of video from congress this past week or so... I'm inclined to think their strategy is to just keep on digging in hopes that they'll come out the other side of the planet and can then redefine the antipode as "On Top" even though it will be underwater somewhere in the Indian Ocean.
 
ahhell said:
I'm kind of torn on that story. She shouldn't have been fired but......
Based on my experience, 5 your olds have very fixed ideas about the binary of sex and gender and they are very certain of the binary. My boy tends to grow his hair long. At about 5 he had short hair and his 5 year old cousin saw a picture of him as a 4 year old with long hair, "That's you when you were a girl!" Far more common an attitude among fiver year olds than not from what I've seen. Also, 5 year olds occasionally identify as cats, dogs, dragons......
Click to expand...

Identifying sex indicators is pattern-recognition, and they develop in children alongside pretty much all other pattern-recognition skills. Toddlers tend to view "man" and "woman" largely in terms of cultural norms around clothing, hair, make-up. A bit less so if their parents don't fit that mold - if their mother has short hair and doesn't wear make-up, they may not incorporate long hair or lipstick as characteristics of "woman". But yeah, under a certain age, it's largely based on external visual cues. As they get older, and are exposed to more and more adults, their pattern profile will change. Generally, by around age 7 most children can very accurately determine male from female without any reliance on clothing or hair or other adornments.

They can still be fooled - just as adults can be fooled by a skilled mimic. But generally, they learn from exposure what the differences between males and females are.
 
This is a fairly long article discussing how control of language leads to control of the agenda, which is something we've been over a few times.

www.thefemalecategory.com

How Media Propagates Gender Ideology

Gender ideology is the nail in the coffin of the Fourth Estate
www.thefemalecategory.com www.thefemalecategory.com

I remember objecting to being obliged to refer to a man as "she" right at the beginning of this thread, complaining that by enforcing this edict, the forum was pre-judging the debate in favour of one side. It's a bigger point than I probably realised at the time. Not only is this compelled speech colouring the debate ("trans girl forced to use the boys' toilets" suggests a very different situation from "boy dressed as a girl forced to use the boys' toilets" for example), but it's clouding public perceptions of the debate. It appears that it's still the case that a chunk of people faced with a public opinion poll question asking about whether a "trans woman" should be allowed to do something, think that a "trans woman" is a woman who wants to be a man.

It's hard-wired in our understanding of language. Words aren't just neutral place-holders, they carry connotations with them. In my opinon we need to take back clear language and name things for what they are.
 
Nobody else going to mention that even a stopped clock is right twice a day?

1737398740351.jpeg

Trump is disgusting in so many ways, but women's rights are under so much attack these days, I'll take this wherever it comes from. On the day when an Australian court ruled that lesbians have no legal right to exclude men from their events.
 
I wonder what Jenner Sr. think about this. I understand Jenner Sr. is a regular guest of trump's.
 
Rolfe said:
Nobody else going to mention that even a stopped clock is right twice a day?

View attachment 58532

Trump is disgusting in so many ways, but women's rights are under so much attack these days, I'll take this wherever it comes from. On the day when an Australian court ruled that lesbians have no legal right to exclude men from their events.
Click to expand...
Strange bedfellows indeed.
 
We'll see. You sex-deniers seemed to win a hell of a lot of battles over the past few years, but reality has a habit of reasserting itself.
 
"Anyone celebrating this news should probably be aware that they're only so keen to create a firm legal definition of a woman for when they start passing other laws down the line to take women's rights away", according to a TRA on the other forum I belong to.
 
At least the GOP knows exactly whom they intend to force into motherhood—against their will—in all fifty states.
 
Last edited:
What's new is that they get to be factually correct and plain spoken while their opposition unnecessarily ties itself in linguistic knots.
 
d4m10n said:
At least the GOP knows exactly whom they intend to force into motherhood—against their will—in all fifty states.
Click to expand...
Pixel42 said:
"Anyone celebrating this news should probably be aware that they're only so keen to create a firm legal definition of a woman for when they start passing other laws down the line to take women's rights away", according to a TRA on the other forum I belong to.
Click to expand...

If anyone considers this was done to protect women's rights they are very mistaken.
 
Darat said:
If anyone considers this was done to protect women's rights they are very mistaken.
Click to expand...
Precisely this.

Democrats want to protect "women's rights" but cannot clearly define the phrase.

Republicans, by contrast, want to strip women of rights once held and know exactly whom they are targeting.
 
Nah. Only those who have bought into gender ideology have any problem telling the difference between men and women. If Trump et al want to remove women's rights, they didn't need to do this first. Or at all. Women were successfully discriminated against for centuries without the need for strict definitions.
 
You have to admire a President that makes his first order of business when taking office to announce that we ain't taking any more ◊◊◊◊ from them tranny freaks.
 
Rolfe said:
This is just fantastic. I don't know who wrote it but it sure as hell wasn't Trump. It's incisive, clear and comprehensive.

www.whitehouse.gov

Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism And Restoring Biological Truth To The Federal Government

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 7301 of title 5, United
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov
Click to expand...
Well, it was written by "May Mailman", former Director of Independent Women's Law Center, now Deputy Assistant to the President.

May Mailman - Butterflies and Wheels

Ah, here is the author. https://twitter.com/WomenReadWomen/status/1881715930629370209...
www.butterfliesandwheels.org www.butterfliesandwheels.org
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom