Merged The razor of Hitchens and the Spirits!

Your AI is wrong.
Now did artificial intelligence make mistakes? Lack of empirical evidence: Scientific skepticism demands observable, measurable, and reproducible evidence for extraordinary claims. Spiritism lacks such evidence for its assertions about spirits !
 
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Now did artificial intelligence make mistakes?
Lack of empirical evidence: Scientific skepticism demands observable, measurable, and reproducible evidence for extraordinary claims. Spiritism lacks such evidence for its assertions about spirits !
 
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence: Skeptics argue that the claims made by Spiritism are so extraordinary that they would require an exceptionally high standard of evidence, which has not been met.
Since there is no empirical evidence of the existence of spirits, the debate is over!
 
Skeptics argue that the claims made by Spiritism are so extraordinary that they would require an exceptionally high standard of evidence, which has not been met.
Actually, spiritism cannot even meet ordinary high standards of evidence.

And you do not read the many answers that people give you, so if the debate is over, it is because you don’t debate.
 
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How did artificial intelligence make mistakes? Lack of empirical evidence: Scientific skepticism demands observable, measurable, and reproducible evidence for extraordinary claims. Spiritism lacks such evidence for its assertions about spirits !
AI just parrots back words related to the subject, in understandable language. It does not actually know the reasoning which those words mean. So while it sounds or reads like it is intelligent, the output is actually gibberish, nonsense.

But you don't know that because you don't understand quantum mechanics.
 
Can the works of Dr. Gary E. Schwartz be evidence of the existence of spirits?
No, it's nowhere near rigorous enough.

Either he never really grasped the scientific method, or he deliberately ignores it in order to sell more books. Neither possibility reflects well on him.
 
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You need to read these books!
First, I have read many of them. They're wishful nonsense, for the reasons I've already given.

Second, the question was what benefit spiritism gives you, such that you would devote so much energy to defending it against a chosen audience of skeptics. No one else but you can answer that.
 
Now did artificial intelligence make mistakes?
Yes. I can provide more detail in the case of your claim regarding Heisenberg, but you would simply ignore it.

Lack of empirical evidence: Scientific skepticism demands observable, measurable, and reproducible evidence for extraordinary claims.
Scientific skepticism requires testable evidence for all operative claims, extraordinary or otherwise. So does law, and many other human pursuits. The advocates of spiritism realize this. They attempt to provide scientifically valid evidence, but usually end up exhibiting incompetence or dishonesty or both in the process, qualifying it as pseudoscience. But name-calling is not our goal here; the point is that if advocates recognize the need for testable evidence, it does you no good to suggest that's an inappropriate standard.

Spiritism lacks such evidence for its assertions about spirits !
Correct. Spiritism cannot meet even an ordinary standard of proof. And because of that, you've spent most of your tenure here replaying various uncreative arguments designed to cajole people into lowering their standards of proof and calling them names when they will not.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Possibly but not necessarily. The history of spiritism's effort to provide evidence presents factors that justify a heightened standard of proof. But this is moot because it cannot meet even an ordinary standard of proof. All claims require suitable evidence. The claims made by spiritism allege a causation. That requires a certain type of testable proof that spiritism is unable and unwilling to provide. Further, the logical framework in which spiritism provides what it thinks should pass for evidence is simply an elaborately begged question that shifts the burden of proof. The spiritism hypothesis is held as the default or null that must hold upon the failure to demonstrate any ordinary intervening cause.

Skeptics argue that the claims made by Spiritism are so extraordinary that they would require an exceptionally high standard of evidence, which has not been met.
Spiritism cannot meet an ordinary standard of proof. Arguments that suggest the standard required by skeptics is to high are moot.

Since there is no empirical evidence of the existence of spirits, the debate is over!
In your case the debate has not begun. Your method of argument has not changed since this thread began. You simply offer one-sentence statements or questions apparently intended to drive engagement and you ignore almost everything said to you in response. You seem to want to blame this situation on the fact that we don't speak a common language, but you are unwilling to take the customary steps that others have found profitable.

You have chosen this forum in which you make your case. It is a skeptics forum in which the debate takes place in English. If you wish to debate the members here, you must find a way to do so effectively in English. If you wish to convince the members here that spiritism is factually true, you must provide the kind of evidence that your audience has stated it requires. It is pointless for you to complain about the circumstances arising out of your own choices.

It may be possible to provide a cogent argument in favor of spiritism, but you do not seem interested in or capable of doing so.
 
Orchestrated Objective Reduction (Orch OR) is a theory proposed by physicist Roger Penrose and anesthesiologist Stuart Hameroff that suggests a connection between quantum mechanics and human consciousness.
The Orch OR theory also raises questions about life after death. Hameroff suggests that after physical death, the quantum information contained in microtubules is not destroyed, but rather dispersed throughout the universe. This implies that consciousness may continue to exist at some level outside the physical body, possibly in other universes or realities.This view is in line with some spiritual and philosophical beliefs about reincarnation and the continuity of the soul.
 
How many ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ times are you going to ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ declare the debate over, only to post another link to some ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ and keep starting over? Jesus christ this is boring.
 
...link to some ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ and keep starting over?
Especially a link to nonsense that in the 30 years since it was proposed has managed to convince almost no other practitioners of either involved field, and has accumulated a list of failures to validate it empirically. And yes, it is possible to test claims in quantum mechanics by empirical methods.

It really is tedious to have to repeatedly entertain invocations de novo of long-debunked material without the slightest attention paid to existing commentary and rebuttal. If a claimant is going to cite a long history of belief in something, it stands to reason we can expect him to address the equally long history of criticism.
 
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Do we really have to suffer "How about this one?" every time you Google a new bit of paranormal speculation? Can you not at least sense a pattern forming?

If you think any of these ideas is worth further examination why don't you put a bit of effort in to finding out what support the idea has, what its critics say about it and then if you still think it stands up, come back and tell us why you think so.
 
Especially a link to nonsense that in the 30 years since it was proposed has managed to convince almost no other practitioners of either involved field, and has accumulated a list of failures to validate it empirically. And yes, it is possible to test claims in quantum mechanics by empirical methods.

It really is tedious to have to repeatedly entertain invocations de novo of long-debunked material without the slightest attention paid to existing commentary and rebuttal. If a claimant is going to cite a long history of belief in something, it stands to reason we can expect him to address the equally long history of criticism.
It can be illustrative and instructive to break down and take down long debunked arguments, for instance to allow a visitor to the forum to see exactly what is on their mind without having to trawl through the archives. Hell, the sidebars on the Jabba thread were worth the price of admission. But this endless linking to tripe with no honest engagement or sincere argumentation is... trying, to say the least.
 

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