Does Hillary have a chance in '08?

[Mark]

Unless the southern border can be involved even in the most arcane way. If that happens the republicans are toast en masse. So might Manny since he lives in NY

Well, maybe. I suspect the anti-Iraq war crowd will still be blamed for not allowing us to defeat the enemy in Iraq. The absurdity of that view will not even be examined for the most part.

I'd love to be wrong, but the last 4 or 5 years say otherwise.

Manny must be very lonely in NY, though.

 

[hgc]

I'd do Bill before her.

[shivver]

It should have come as no surprise that Bill liked to hit on ugly chicks. Afterall he married one. She actually is more attractive now, in her 50's, than she is in those photos of her 30 yrs ago. Yikes!

 

[Grammatron]

Fair enough. But what don't you like about her? It's a serious question...I ask it a lot, but seldom get a serious answer.

Censorship views (with respect to video games for example), and her support for the ant-flag burning law. Why would you vote for such a person?

 

[hgc]

It should have come as no surprise that Bill liked to hit on ugly chicks. Afterall he married one. She actually is more attractive now, in her 50's, than she is in those photos of her 30 yrs ago. Yikes!

That was a very misogynistic post, and I regret it.

 

[Mark]

Censorship views (with respect to video games for example), and her support for the ant-flag burning law. Why would you vote for such a person?

Because there is no candidate with whom I agree 100%. The flag burning issue I care about a lot...but it is not enough by itself to upset me that much.

I don't know the details of her stance on video games.

 

[Ed]

It should have come as no surprise that Bill liked to hit on ugly chicks. Afterall he married one. She actually is more attractive now, in her 50's, than she is in those photos of her 30 yrs ago. Yikes!

Just stop or I am going to report you sor some obscure rule violation.

Really, stop.

I am going to have trouble sleeping now.

 

[Ed]

I don't know the details of her stance on video games.

Well, what would you like it to be?

 

[Luke T.]

I agree completely. But you watch, when the inevitable happens, and another terrorist attack happens on US soil, the anti-Iraq war crowd will be blamed. This will make no sense whatsoever...and will be totally effective.

If another terrorist attack happens on US soil, Gitmo will look like Disneyland, and there will be an Abu Graib on every corner. The Department of Homeland Security will be consolidated with the FCC to form the Department of STFU. The Patriot Act will have thirty-eight pages of additional "law enforcement tools" added, including the granting of subway token booth attendants the power to shoot gate jumpers on sight. The terror alert color code system will open up the jumbo box of crayons. Oregon will finally become a red state. The Girl Scouts will ban any den mother who has had an abortion. The only postage stamp you will be able to buy is one with the ten commandments on it. Canada will begin a large canal project that will be seen as a thinly veiled attempt to chop themselves off the North American continent. Pat Robertson will require surgery for priapism ("abnormal persistent erection of the penis"). And the Democrats will nominate George W. Bush for a third term.

 

[hgc]

Just stop or I am going to report you sor some obscure rule violation.

Really, stop.

I am going to have trouble sleeping now.

It's those thick, sturdy piano legs that keep you up at night, eh?

 

[Mark]

If another terrorist attack happens on US soil, Gitmo will look like Disneyland, and there will be an Abu Graib on every corner. The Department of Homeland Security will be consolidated with the FCC to form the Department of STFU. The Patriot Act will have thirty-eight pages of additional "law enforcement tools" added, including the granting of subway token booth attendants the power to shoot gate jumpers on sight. The terror alert color code system will open up the jumbo box of crayons. Oregon will finally become a blue state. The Girl Scouts will ban any den mother who has had an abortion. The only postage stamp you will be able to buy is one with the ten commandments on it. Canada will begin a large canal project that will be seen as a thinly veiled attempt to chop themselves off the North American continent. Pat Robertson will require surgery for priapism. And the Democrats will nominate George W. Bush for a third term.

As with most good satire, there is a great deal of truth in this!

Ed

Well, what would you like it to be?

All porn, all the time!

 

[Ed]

It's those thick, sturdy piano legs that keep you up at night, eh?

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ....

 

[Grammatron]

Because there is no candidate with whom I agree 100%. The flag burning issue I care about a lot...but it is not enough by itself to upset me that much.

I don't know the details of her stance on video games.

I understand that, but those two issues -- at least for me -- are very important. And if a candidate took a stand on those issues I would have to look at the other candidates.

If they both had same stand on the issue I might have to look elsewhere or consider their other views.

Hillary Clinton on Video games: Family Entertainment Protection Act

Hillary Clinton on the US Flag: Flag-Protection Measure

 

[Blue Monk]

I think Hillary has an excellent chance in 08 barring any unforeseen events.

I think her ace in the whole will be her ability to deliver the minority vote.

In the last two elections the Republicans have done an outstanding job of eroding that traditional Democratic block. I suspect they may not be as successful next time around no matter who is running but Hilary would probably be able to get a great deal of mileage out of her husband’s great popularity among minorities.

I also doubt that another Republican candidate can so solidly deliver the fundamentalist block as well as George W. and there may also be some defection of the middle of the roaders from the Republican camp due to this administration’s problems, real or imagined.

I do fear that if Hilary is elected she would probably be quite divisive no matter what she did as the extreme right’s hatred of her is so intense.

In my opinion, McCain would be her greatest threat. I think he could garner support from both the middle and the right leaving Hilary only with the left which would not be enough to get elected.

 

[Luke T.]

I understand that, but those two issues -- at least for me -- are very important. And if a candidate took a stand on those issues I would have to look at the other candidates.

If they both had same stand on the issue I might have to look elsewhere or consider their other views.

Hillary Clinton on Video games: Family Entertainment Protection Act

Hillary Clinton on the US Flag: Flag-Protection Measure

I so wish I had still had the link to a video of a press conference Lieberman had on video games. He ran a highlight film of every piece of porn currently available on the video game market. Liesure Suit Larry. I forget what else. It was hilarious, in a surreal kind of way.

 

[BPSCG]

The Patriot Act will have thirty-eight pages of additional "law enforcement tools" added, including the granting of subway token booth attendants the power to shoot gate jumpers on sight.

You obviously haven't been to NYC recently; they do that already.

Oregon will finally become a blue state.

It already is. You meant red, right?

 

[Grammatron]

I so wish I had still had the link to a video of a press conference Lieberman had on video games. He ran a highlight film of every piece of porn currently available on the video game market. Liesure Suit Larry. I forget what else. It was hilarious, in a surreal kind of way.

I am not sure what Video Games did to Lieberman but he had it in for them since the 90's. Now that that video games are more popular than ever people actually are hearing about it.

 

[Mark]

I understand that, but those two issues -- at least for me -- are very important. And if a candidate took a stand on those issues I would have to look at the other candidates.

If they both had same stand on the issue I might have to look elsewhere or consider their other views.

Hillary Clinton on Video games: Family Entertainment Protection Act

Hillary Clinton on the US Flag: Flag-Protection Measure

I have no problem whatsoever with a rating system for video games. Banning would be a different issue...but as a parent I am fine with a rating system.

Flag burning should not be banned or fined. Period.

 

[Manny]

Manny must be very lonely in NY, though.

You have no idea. Lonlier than a fat guy at a pro-ana convention.

It was surreal watching people practically walk right through the crater of the biggest attack on US soil in our history to vote 90-10 for a guy who didn't even know we're at war.

 

[Luke T.]

It already is. You meant red, right?

D'oh! Must edit.

 

[Grammatron]

I have no problem whatsoever with a rating system for video games. Banning would be a different issue...but as a parent I am fine with a rating system.

Hmm perhaps it's not clear enough. There is already a rating system for video games.

Are you familiar with how the movie rating system works and the difference between that and Family Entertainment Protection Act?

Flag burning should not be banned or fined. Period.

Hey, we're in agreement

Personally, if they pass one, I would burn at least one flag a day.