Cont: Musk buys Twitter II

dirtywick said:
clip of a live stream of a guy watching a live stream of elon musk playing poe 2. while i know very little about this game, or diablo 4, this guy seems to know a lot about it. you can skip to 12:48 for what the guy thinks, but he's pretty convinced elon pays someone else to play his accounts and occasionally logs in to play himself, claiming he is a top player when he has no idea what's going on in the game.

and you might think, well who cares? he owns some successful businesses, you know someone who live in the woods who got their internet from starlink so it's fine that he lies about everything all the time. but, i think it's pretty weird. and it's a broader pattern, especially concerning how easily people are letting themselves be fooled. if a guy has enough money, he can say anything and people will choose to believe him, even if they know it's impossible. even when he's caught time and time again, red handed.
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Not only that but it goes to show how he'll lie over petty, stupid ◊◊◊◊ that means nothing to most people. If he'll lie about this what wouldn't this douche nozzle lie about?
 
It's a common thing: rich kids of all ages hire pro players to get their noob ass through difficult contents - they are called Sherpas.
And Musk, like most of these types, convince themselves that they are carrying the team when in fact they are dragging it down.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
It's a common thing: rich kids of all ages hire pro players to get their noob ass through difficult contents - they are called Sherpas.
And Musk, like most of these types, convince themselves that they are carrying the team when in fact they are dragging it down.
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People like Galaxy Brain think they're theTom Brady when they're the Ali Dia.
 
dirtywick said:
clip of a live stream of a guy watching a live stream of elon musk playing poe 2. while i know very little about this game, or diablo 4, this guy seems to know a lot about it. you can skip to 12:48 for what the guy thinks, but he's pretty convinced elon pays someone else to play his accounts and occasionally logs in to play himself, claiming he is a top player when he has no idea what's going on in the game.

and you might think, well who cares? he owns some successful businesses, you know someone who live in the woods who got their internet from starlink so it's fine that he lies about everything all the time. but, i think it's pretty weird. and it's a broader pattern, especially concerning how easily people are letting themselves be fooled. if a guy has enough money, he can say anything and people will choose to believe him, even if they know it's impossible. even when he's caught time and time again, red handed.
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Yes that is one of the top streamer of POE2, he definitely knows this game. And its evident that Musk has no idea what he is doing in it. Also another top tier POE2 player reacted to Musk streaming it and his conclusion were the same. I have no idea how Musk thought that no one would notice this.
 
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Lennart Hyland said:
Yes that is one of the top streamer of POE2, he definitely knows this game. And its evident that Musk has no idea what he is doing it. Also another top tier POE2 player react to Musk streaming it and his conclusion was the same. I have no idea how Musk thought that no one would notice this.
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thanks. i know enough about video games to know when a guy talking about a video game knows about the video game or not even if i don't know anything about the game itself, so it seemed really credible to me. but yeah.

i agree, musk is a terrible liar. with things like being a ceo or ai, there's always the wiggle room that well he's rich so he must be right and where's your rocket company if you know so much. with this stuff, man, he really has no respect for anyone else to think he can just bull ◊◊◊◊ his way through everything. imo
 
Lennart Hyland said:
Yes that is one of the top streamer of POE2, he definitely knows this game. And its evident that Musk has no idea what he is doing in it. Also another top tier POE2 player reacted to Musk streaming it and his conclusion were the same. I have no idea how Musk thought that no one would notice this.
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He's rich enough that he's got hundreds of people deluding him into thinking he's not another Ali Dia.
 
He boosted an hour-long propaganda video by right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones that claimed the fires were “part of a larger globalist plot” to cause the collapse of the United States; Musk replied simply, “True”. And he repeatedly amplified claims
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Musk continues his descent into insanity.

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Elon Musk blames female firefighters of colour for LA fires

As Los Angeles burns, the man with the ear of the new president is helping spread false claims and racist ideas for political outrage.
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The Great Zaganza said:
Musk's insane wealth will disappear as fast as it arrived - it is entirely dependent on the assumption that the can find new investors faster than the can annoy his current ones - there is a limit to that strategy.
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So you think Tesla and SpaceX will implode, leaving Musk penniless? Because that's where his 'insane wealth' comes from. However I suspect that a lot of legacy car makers will be throwing in the towel before Tesla, and Boeing might go sooner too. The big question marks are over the Cybercab and fsd, and the Optimus robot. Tesla is sinking an enormous amount of R&D into those projects. If they don't pan out it might sink the company, since increased competition from other EV makers is bound to reduce their market share. OTOH if they do pan out it could be huge. Musk has never had an aversion to risk, and so far it has worked out well. Just luck? Or is there some mad genius in it too?

You say it's dependent on finding new investors - I don't think that's true. AFAICT Tesla and SpaceX are self-funding now and don't need new investors. Tesla is a public company so its 'value' is determined by the share price. So long as they seem to be doing well the price will stay up.

Other big players in the industry are now saying that Tesla is leading the way in autonomous driving, AI and robotics. Their grid scale battery storage business is growing exponentially. Last year they managed to hold their own in EV sales against BYD, China's largest EV maker, despite pundits saying they were finished in China and the EV 'fad' is over (hint, it isn't). They have nearly completed the factory that will be making the Tesla Semi, which is also being trialed in Europe.

Of course all this could go bad making Tesla go bankrupt, but they are in much better financial health than many other car makers. Nissan just announced a merger with Honda to stave off the inevitable, Stellantis is in trouble, Volkswagen is crashing hard, BMW stock is down 22% from a year ago (down 33% from the peak in April 2024).

But who knows what the future will bring? If China invades Taiwan, what will Trump do? What will Putin do when he sees the Ukraine war is lost? If half of Los Angeles can go up in flames in the middle of winter, what will summer bring? Bird flu is decimating diary cow numbers and killing chickens causing the price of eggs to skyrocket, but that's nothing compared to what we could be facing if it jumps to humans. If bad things happen and the global economy crashes it will probably be game over for Tesla and SpaceX, but Musk won't be the only one losing his shirt. However without a global catastrophe it seems pretty likely that he will remain 'rich' for the foreseeable future, and not by 'finding new investors faster than he can annoy his current ones'. But hey, keep believing that narrative if it makes you feel better.
 
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Roger Ramjets said:
So you think Tesla and SpaceX will implode, leaving Musk penniless? Because that's where his 'insane wealth' comes from. However I suspect that a lot of legacy car makers will be throwing in the towel before Tesla, and Boeing might go sooner too. The big question marks are over the Cybercab and fsd, and the Optimus robot. Tesla is sinking an enormous amount of R&D into those projects. If they don't pan out it might sink the company, since increased competition from other EV makers is bound to reduce their market share. OTOH if they do pan out it could be huge. Musk has never had an aversion to risk, and so far it has worked out well. Just luck? Or is there some mad genius in it too?

You say it's dependent on finding new investors - I don't think that's true. AFAICT Tesla and SpaceX are self-funding now and don't need new investors. Tesla is a public company so its 'value' is determined by the share price. So long as they seem to be doing well the price will stay up.

Other big players in the industry are now saying that Tesla is leading the way in autonomous driving, AI and robotics. Their grid scale battery storage business is growing exponentially. Last year they managed to hold their own in EV sales against BYD, China's largest EV maker, despite pundits saying they were finished in China and the EV 'fad' is over (hint, it isn't). They have nearly completed the factory that will be making the Tesla Semi, which is also being trialed in Europe.

Of course all this could go bad making Tesla go bankrupt, but they are in much better financial health than many other car makers. Nissan just announced a merger with Honda to stave off the inevitable, Stellantis is in trouble, Volkswagen is crashing hard, BMW stock is down 22% from a year ago (down 33% from the peak in April 2024).

But who knows what the future will bring? If China invades Taiwan, what will Trump do? What will Putin do when he sees the Ukraine war is lost? If half of Los Angeles can go up in flames in the middle of winter, what will summer bring? Bird flu is decimating diary cow numbers and killing chickens causing the price of eggs to skyrocket, but that's nothing compared to what we could be facing if it jumps to humans. If bad things happen and the global economy crashes it will probably be game over for Tesla and SpaceX, but Musk won't be the only one losing his shirt. However without a global catastrophe it seems pretty likely that he will remain 'rich' for the foreseeable future, and not by 'finding new investors faster than he can annoy his current ones'. But hey, keep believing that narrative if it makes you feel better.
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yes, of course they will implode as soon as the government ends it's "special relationship" with it.

Tesla has hit a wall, globally, as China can do everything it does but cheaper. Only massive tariffs will delay the inevitable.
And its endless money pot of EV offsets, provided by the Obama administration, is running out.

SpaceX is providing a service no one wants: giant single payloads; only Bezos would have a need for that for his Space Factories, but he will use his own system. There is no sane reason whatsoever to build Moon or Mars colonies.
Satellites are getter smaller, cheaper, lighter, better - plenty of other companies can get them into orbit.

Without leeching most of NASAs budget, SpaceX is finished.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
yes, of course they will implode as soon as the government ends it's "special relationship" with it.

Tesla has hit a wall, globally, as China can do everything it does but cheaper. Only massive tariffs will delay the inevitable.
And its endless money pot of EV offsets, provided by the Obama administration, is running out.

SpaceX is providing a service no one wants: giant single payloads; only Bezos would have a need for that for his Space Factories, but he will use his own system. There is no sane reason whatsoever to build Moon or Mars colonies.
Satellites are getter smaller, cheaper, lighter, better - plenty of other companies can get them into orbit.

Without leeching most of NASAs budget, SpaceX is finished.
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When do you think this will happen?
 
Roger Ramjets said:
When do you think this will happen?
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knowing how long the US has decided to keep big Argo or Petrol companies in business with subsidize and special regulations to keep them insulated from the consequences of their stupidities and greed - decades. If Tesla remains the only big EV maker in the US (as Musk will tried to enshrine in his role as Trump Whisperer), it will be propped up no matter what, long after it has stop producing anything worthwhile.
But it will cease to be competitive globally my the end of Trump's 2nd term.

If Blue Origin's flight tomorrow is successful, SpaceX will lose much of its special position, and most of its profitability, which depends entirely on never being without a job, thanks to Starlink filling up any gaps. As mentioned, it's mostly moving money from investors in one company to another. It won't be able to raise the money it needs to actually build what it promised NASA - Trump will have to order more taxpayer money shovelled his way.

But more critically: both companies have a single point of failure: Musk. If he can no longer be bothered to find investors, or disqualifies himself in another way, both companies will sink under the load of the debts, just not as fast as Twitter.
 
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Lennart Hyland said:
Yes that is one of the top streamer of POE2, he definitely knows this game. And its evident that Musk has no idea what he is doing in it. Also another top tier POE2 player reacted to Musk streaming it and his conclusion were the same. I have no idea how Musk thought that no one would notice this.
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It does then put in question his top 20 Diablo 4 rating. It’s not good as a general illustration of his honesty and character but it is good for the companies as it means their CEO wasnt putting in hundreds of hours playing video games.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Is it comparatively better or worse than Trump's claimed golf handicap?
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It is an equally pathetic claim of alpha status in an unimportant hobby, but with (marginally) more contemporary trousers.



ETA: I am not a fan of contemporary trousers. The waists are too low, they are too tight, and they are made of crap. None of this is relevant.

What is relevant: Trump and Musk both cheat at their chosen games, and then boast about their prowess. It would be is laughable if it weren't for despite their power and influence.
 
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junkshop said:
ETA: I am not a fan of contemporary trousers. The waists are too low, they are too tight, and they are made of crap.
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Suit jackets which are cut so poorly the the waist is exposed showing off the end of the tie and a significant portion of shirt. (We probably need a dedicated tailoring thread.)
 
Most men seem to wear suits that don't fit very well them complain they aren't comfortable.
 
Darat said:
It does then put in question his top 20 Diablo 4 rating. It’s not good as a general illustration of his honesty and character but it is good for the companies as it means their CEO wasnt putting in hundreds of hours playing video games.
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well i think it's another piece of evidence that calls into question how much man vs myth there is in elon musk. certainly not the first time he's been caught blatantly lying, and won't be the last, i have enough knowledge about the topic in general to conclude that it's absolutely comically a lie that he's even more than passingly familiar with the game and in no way a top player by any measure, and that's as likely true with diablo 4 as it was with poe 2.

but the thing that really gets me is how little respect he has for other people in that he really thought he could just buy this boosted account and stream himself having no idea what's going on and get away with it. imagine what lies he'd be willing to tell on topics there's not a million people qualified to call him out on. and while i can't really say he doesn't work 160 hours a week at his 7 ceo jobs, or all his crazy and zany decisions aren't really actually brilliant genius moves since i'm not a ceo and don't own a lot of businesses, well i have my doubts.
 
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