Cont: Musk, SpaceX and future of Tesla II

Well batteries involve converting electrical energy into chemical energy too. Hydrogen fuel cells have better energy density (I think, maybe wrong) Batteries are more convenient though. Either way, both involve converting electrical energy to something else and then back again.
Creating the hydrogen involves the use of electricity as well though (unless the hydrogen is mined, which causes its own issues from an efficiency perspective).
 
Elon has claimed on Twitter that his company could build a transatlantic tunnel between New York and London for one thousand times less money than current estimates. $15.7 billion.

Such a figure would be cheaper than the cost of the world's current longest underwater tunnel, the 31-mile Channel Tunnel linking London and Paris, which cost £9 billion in 1984, approximately £18 billion in today’s money.
Musk lies constantly.
 
Which company would that be? Has he any company with a proven record in tunnelling?
The Boring Company?

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Seems that The Boring Company bored the Las Vegas tunnels at a rate of 15m a day. If they start at opposite ends it's still going to take a while to build an Atlantic tunnel unless the speed can be increased significantly.
 
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Creating the hydrogen involves the use of electricity as well though (unless the hydrogen is mined, which causes its own issues from an efficiency perspective).
Creating batteries involves lots of energy too - and you have to mine the lithium. Hydrogen can be electrolysed out of water.
 
Having watched Musks management style outside the confines of his own companies, I am now convinced Tesla and SpaceX must fail, unless they get rid of Musk. He is impulsive, ignores facts and then makes decisions based on easily debunked false evidence and wants to lead but not listen. His history of making false projections is getting closer to breaking point.

What is Starship supposed to be able to lift to orbit? Musk says 250 to 300 tons in expendable mode, that is, no reuse. He still has no interior. How does a payload get out of Starship? Musk is testing a 'pez dispenser', which is only for small loads.
 
Elon has claimed on Twitter that his company could build a transatlantic tunnel between New York and London for one thousand times less money than current estimates. $15.7 billion.

Such a figure would be cheaper than the cost of the world's current longest underwater tunnel, the 31-mile Channel Tunnel linking London and Paris, which cost £9 billion in 1984, approximately £18 billion in today’s money.
Given that his company digs at 1/10 the speed and at multples of the cost of conventional borers, I fully endorse Galaxy Brain's claim.
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What is Starship supposed to be able to lift to orbit? Musk says 250 to 300 tons in expendable mode, that is, no reuse. He still has no interior. How does a payload get out of Starship? Musk is testing a 'pez dispenser', which is only for small loads.
That is an interesting question. When the programme was announced, Musk's claim was 350 tons to orbit. The claim for what is now called Starship 1 is 50 tons, although it must be emphasised that it hasn't yet achieved orbit with 0 tons. Starship 2, which is a stretched version of the current rocket is claimed to be able to lift 100 to 150 tons. Starship 3, an even more stretched version, will lift around 200+ tons according to SpaceX.

According to Wikipedia, a Starship 2 second stage will be used in the next launch.
 
It's worth noting that, on an operational level, both companies already operate without him. Given his incessant tweeting and his political shenanigans, he can't have much time left for running either company.

I suspect that, at SpaceX, he is responsible only for setting ridiculous deadlines and then shouting at people who fail to make them. He probably also helps with the fund raising. Without Musk, SpaceX will have to cut back on all the cutting edge stuff that is losing them money, like Starship and possibly Starlink or they will go broke without all the continuous investment that Musk brings in.

I suspect that, at Tesla, he is responsible only for stupid ideas, setting ridiculous deadlines and then shouting at people who fail to make them. He also helps prop up the share price. Without Musk, Tesla's share price would take a massive hit as people realise it is just a car company, and one with significant challenges ahead. There will be a spike in sales as people who would never buy anything off Musk change their minds about buying a Tesla. If it survives long enough, Tesla will become a solid mid sized car company with some higher end products. However, I think it is more likely to get bought by one of the larger car companies.
 
Elon has claimed on Twitter that his company could build a transatlantic tunnel between New York and London for one thousand times less money than current estimates. $15.7 billion.

Such a figure would be cheaper than the cost of the world's current longest underwater tunnel, the 31-mile Channel Tunnel linking London and Paris, which cost £9 billion in 1984, approximately £18 billion in today’s money.
More bovine excrement from the worlds biggest bovine excrementer.

No, he can't, and no he won't.

Amazing that even his fanbois still give him the benefit of the doubt, considering all his failed promises.

But we have full self driving right now. And it will be available next year. And we will have a Mars colony in 2020.
Right, Elon, right. Chinny reckon.
 
Who could afford the price?

Tesla has ongoing problems with the bleeding edge batteries despite Musk ordering it to be fixed. You'll have to do better than that, Elon.
Wait untilit starts defaulting and buy out the assets at auction. Like other meme stocks, Tesla will probably be at its highest when heading into bankruptcy.
 

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