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The Truth about RFK Jr

Carrot Flower King said:
I believe most of us here will know about the history of polio vaccines: tell us something new.
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One of the key tenets of conspiracy theories is that they are revealing hitherto secret information, that has somehow been suppressed or withheld from the public. It makes conspiracy theorists feel smarter than everyone else. Thus, they constantly post these supposedly earthshattering revelations, and never once consider that this information has been in the public realm for decades, that many informed people already knew this, and that the implications of this have already been considered and written in to the standard process.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
One of the key tenets of conspiracy theories is that they are revealing hitherto secret information, that has somehow been suppressed or withheld from the public. It makes conspiracy theorists feel smarter than everyone else. Thus, they constantly post these supposedly earthshattering revelations, and never once consider that this information has been in the public realm for decades, that many informed people already knew this, and that the implications of this have already been considered and written in to the standard process.
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Very much this....

Sadly the conspiracy theorists are now in charge and there's a very real risk that vaccines may end up being withdrawn in the US.
 
mikegriffith1 said:
And this wasn't the first time that federal health officials tried to cover up troubling facts about a vaccine. Do you know anything about the scandal regarding the first polio vaccine in the 1950s?
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Here is a link to a review of Paul Offit's book on the early days of the polio vaccine. "Three larger companies produced safe polio vaccines according to Salk's protocol for inactivating the virus with formaldehyde. The lack of experience and expertise at Cutter Laboratories, undetected by the inspectors, caused the disaster." Here is a link to a biographical sketch of Bernice Eddy. "Amidst the scientific and bureaucratic chaos, Workman never told the licensing committee, and the Cutter vaccine was approved and shipped out...Eddy continued her ground-breaking research. In 1956, she worked with Dr. Sarah Stewart of the National Cancer Institute, and they identified the SE (Stewart-Eddy) polyoma virus, which can cause tumors. Eddy also identified the simian virus 40." Given that he knows the history, I am now inclined to give greater weight to things Paul Offit says.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
Here is a link to a review of Paul Offit's book on the early days of the polio vaccine. "Three larger companies produced safe polio vaccines according to Salk's protocol for inactivating the virus with formaldehyde. The lack of experience and expertise at Cutter Laboratories, undetected by the inspectors, caused the disaster." Here is a link to a biographical sketch of Bernice Eddy. "Amidst the scientific and bureaucratic chaos, Workman never told the licensing committee, and the Cutter vaccine was approved and shipped out...Eddy continued her ground-breaking research. In 1956, she worked with Dr. Sarah Stewart of the National Cancer Institute, and they identified the SE (Stewart-Eddy) polyoma virus, which can cause tumors. Eddy also identified the simian virus 40." Given that he knows the history, I am now inclined to give greater weight to things Paul Offit says.
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I find it kind of amusing reading this post as that I watched the following video about the history of the development of the polio vaccine and the problems associated with the different vaccines. It explains what happened with the Cutter vaccine and the issue with the Sabin vaccine.

 
Chris_Halkides said:
At In the Pipeline medicinal chemist Derek Lowe wrote, "During the worst of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, Kennedy continued his very public opposition to vaccination, and boosted ineffective "treatments" like ivermectin, enriching himself in the process. His statements during the pandemic were disgraceful, and (as opposed to his measles vaccine disgrace) he has made no effort to step away from them...Kennedy's views on science and medicine are not only wrong, they are actively harmful and destructive. He has used them to make a great deal of money, and he has lied about them to interviewers and reporters whenever he finds it convenient."
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I like Derek Lowe. His essays are informed and funny yet understandable by laypeople.
 
Tero said:
Ron Johnson on RFK Jr: "We need to find out what is causing this explosion in chronic illness, in autism"
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Ron Johnson on RFK Jr: "We need to find out what is causing this explosion in chronic illness, in autism"
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We know. We knew 20 years ago. Diagnosis.
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Absolutely. There isn't "more" autism; there's greater knowledge among both the public and doctors of the signs of autism leading to more diagnoses. I knew there was something not quite right about my daughter's development and I was the one who initiated her evaluation. She is only mildly on the spectrum and could have easily gone undiagnosed her entire life and seen as just being "quirky" and "picky".|

Many children start to manifest autism around the same age as vaccines are being given which is a coincidence, not a connection. These morons who still try and tie autism to vaccines are going to kill children because idiot parents believe their stupidity.
 
At In the Pipeline Derek Lowe wrote, "Cervical cancer is almost completely preventable through such vaccination programs, and the anti-vaccine activists who have come out against them (such as the dangerous fool nominated to be secretary of HHS) can go to hell." This is sounding like Make America Sick Again.
 
Chris_Halkides said:
At In the Pipeline Derek Lowe wrote, "Cervical cancer is almost completely preventable through such vaccination programs, and the anti-vaccine activists who have come out against them (such as the dangerous fool nominated to be secretary of HHS) can go to hell." This is sounding like Make America Sick Again.
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My mother died from cervical cancer in 2017 even though she routinely got a Pap Test (which were all normal). I asked her oncologist if cervical cancer was genetic and he said that almost all cervical cancer is the result of the human papilloma virus. There is a relatively new HPV vaccine which I made sure my daughter received when she was 11. All pregnant women are tested for HPV.
 
MedPage reported, "But about half of voters want the government to be more involved in ensuring children are vaccinated for childhood diseases, according to AP VoteCast...Republican voters -- about two-thirds -- were more likely to hold a favorable view of Kennedy, much higher than the roughly 2 in 10 Democrats who viewed him positively. Meanwhile, about 7 in 10 Democrats had a negative opinion of Kennedy, with about half saying they had a "very unfavorable" view." Two of the people quoted in this article who had a favorable view of Mr. Kennedy indicated a distrust of junk food, but I don't see this as an issue over which the HHS Secretary has much control.
 
Stacyhs said:
My mother died from cervical cancer in 2017 even though she routinely got a Pap Test (which were all normal). I asked her oncologist if cervical cancer was genetic and he said that almost all cervical cancer is the result of the human papilloma virus. There is a relatively new HPV vaccine which I made sure my daughter received when she was 11. All pregnant women are tested for HPV.
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Sorry to hear about your mother.

The HPV vaccine has apparently caused a remarkable drop in cervical cancer rates wherever it has been used extensively. Unfortunately, anti-vaxxers are spreading their poison about it.
 
angrysoba said:
Sorry to hear about your mother.

The HPV vaccine has apparently caused a remarkable drop in cervical cancer rates wherever it has been used extensively. Unfortunately, anti-vaxxers are spreading their poison about it.
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If you accept a vaccine against a STD, it means you're a slut is a common argument I have heard.
 
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