General UK politics VIII - The Last Tory

[Filippo Lippi]

How many of the farmers working 24x7 actually own the land instead of being tenant farmers?

There was a tweet the other day. I think it was about 85% owner/farmer, 15 tenant. The situation has completely reversed since Lloyd-George's landed gentry bashing budget

 

[Andy_Ross]

Vast majority of farms round here belong to Guisborough Estate, Skelton Castle Estate or the Zetland Estate.

 

[jimbob]

There was a tweet the other day. I think it was about 85% owner/farmer, 15 tenant. The situation has completely reversed since Lloyd-George's landed gentry bashing budget

A quick search says 54% entirely owner occupied. 14% entirely tenanted 31% mixed tenure.

59% in England are under 50ha, with 39% under 20ha

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67162edf720eec5582849b19/regional-profiles-stats-region-north_east-31oct24.pdf

(PDF)

 

[Filippo Lippi]

A quick search says 54% entirely owner occupied. 14% entirely tenanted 31% mixed tenure.

59% in England are under 50ha, with 39% under 20ha

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67162edf720eec5582849b19/regional-profiles-stats-region-north_east-31oct24.pdf

(PDF)

Thank you for the correction

 

[P.J. Denyer]

But if all the tax dodgers try to sell their land at once it will be worth less. Won't someone think of the tax dodgers' children?!

Surely that's a good thing? If the land's worth less they won't be liable for IHT & can continue to farm without the pressue of the enormous wealth they could unlock by selling it.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Sorry to break it to you nu-labor smashed up the NHS, and nu-nu-labor's Streeting is going to take a lump hammer to what remains.

Utter nonsense.

 

[Lothian]

Surely that's a good thing? If the land's worth less they won't be liable for IHT & can continue to farm without the pressue of the enormous wealth they could unlock by selling it.

One of the issues with farmland (according to an old farming school mate) was that the Tories changed the rules so that you could earn more from land by not farming on it (don't ask me the specifics. I think it was to do with ecology eg planting trees on farmland). The likes of Dyson were buying up farming land for I.T. benefits but were not raising animals or growing crops. If he is right, farming needs the post Brexit subsides looked at as well as the earnings per acre are not changed by I.T.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Nigel Farage skipped the vote on the Tobacco and Vapes Bill to present his GB News show

He said: “The reason I’m not voting at 7pm is because it’s going pass with a majority and I think I’m better off here"

 

[Andy_Ross]

AT PMQs Badenoch called on Starmer to resign because of the online petition.

Starmer replied "We had a massive petition on the Fourth of July in this country. We spent years taking our party from a party of protest to a party of government. They're hurtling in the opposite direction."

 

[ohms]

Badenoch at today's PMQ says "We had a budget in March this year and tractors were not blockading the streets of Whitehall afterwards."

Her memory must be failing:

Farmers storm London on go-slow tractor protest

Convoys with horns blaring head towards Westminster over a lack of support for UK food production.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Andy_Ross]

Now the story is if the petition gets to over 9 million, that's more people than voted for Labour so they have lost their mandate and must resign.

 

[3point14]

The sooner xitter dies, the happier I will be.

 

[Andy_Ross]

From todays PMQs

Badenoch: 'Does the PM stand by his promise to ban the sale of petrol cars, even if more jobs will be lost?'

Starmer: 'The EV mandate was introduced by the last govt. She was the business sec that introduced it'

 

[Garrison]

Sorry to break it to you nu-labor smashed up the NHS, and nu-nu-labor's Streeting is going to take a lump hammer to what remains.

So basically you are just going to lie outright about the past, unless you have an actual measure by which the performance of the NHS didn't improve under labour?

 

[Garrison]

From todays PMQs

Badenoch: 'Does the PM stand by his promise to ban the sale of petrol cars, even if more jobs will be lost?'

Starmer: 'The EV mandate was introduced by the last govt. She was the business sec that introduced it'

Don't worry she can count on the Mail and the Express to rewrite history for her.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Labour are to introduce free breakfast clubs in to all primary schools by 2026.
they are asking for an initial 750 schools to take part in a pilot starting in the new year to be expanded to include all schools by the end of the year.

 

[Ivor the Engineer]

No they didn't. I think some of their changes were bad for the NHS, but, in no sense, did they smash it up. Smashing it up would be dismantling it and replacing it with a US style insurance system.

That may be your definition of "smashing it up". Mine would be PFI contracts and ever more outsourcing to the private sector. Also, see my last post in this thread re: Alan Milburn.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Of 48 votes this Parliament, Farage has skipped 32.

 

[Andy_Ross]

MPs will debate an online petition calling for a re-run of July's general election, after it garnered over 2.8 million signatures.

A debate has been scheduled in Westminster Hall, a secondary debating chamber where such petitions are discussed, on 6 January.

It has become the third most popular e-petition since 2010, easily surpassing the 100,000 signatures required for a debate to take place.

MPs to debate petition calling for another election

A petition calling for another vote will be debated in January, after gathering 2.7m signatures.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Of 48 votes this Parliament, Farage has skipped 32.

Compared to his performance as an MEP it's an almost compulsive dedication to the job.