Kamala Harris Election Campaign

[thaiboxerken]

He's also a convicted felon and adjucated rapist.

 

[Reformed Offlian]

Four posts and counting complaining about this "insidiously divisive" ad. How many posts complaining about any of Trump's divisive rhetoric which is truly insidious? Without even checking, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess somewhere around zero.

Insidiously divisive rhetoric rates are higher among blacks, hispanics, and- wait, what were we talking about?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Domestic violence rates are higher among black, hispanic, and asian populations than among whites. If the prevailing "wisdom" holds that all of those ethnic groups are predominantly democrats, it might challenge your assumption.

But I see the ad plays right into your own biases, so there's that I suppose.

Your assertion is not supported by data.

 

[Stacyhs]

I agree that it happens, and that it's more likely in general to be males exerting coercive control than females.

What I don't like is the framing of this as the basis of a political ad. Domestic violence and coercive control isn't a political issue, it's a social issue. I think it's a bad idea to weaponize it as a political issue, and to sow mistrust and discord among couples. I also think it's horribly bad taste to base the message on the double whammy of 1) males are bad and 2) males support Trump. It's an insidiously divisive narrative.

It's a political issue if men are controlling how their wives vote.
I disagree that reminding these women that their vote is secret and to vote their conscience is sowing "mistrust and discord". If men are controlling their women, there's already "mistrust and discord".

No, not all men are bad and that ad isn't directed at "all men". It's clear what men it's being directed at: those whose wives feel controlled. Ad the fact is, the majority of Trump's popularity is among men, not women.

 

[Andy_Ross]

How is reminding people that their vote is secret sowing mistrust and discord?

 

[GlennB]

I wish Harris well and hope she wins, but I'm getting utterly sick of the sight of her manic, mouth wide open 'smile'.

 

[johnny karate]

How is reminding people that their vote is secret sowing mistrust and discord?

My understanding is that it's bad to keep anything secret from the spouse who you already don't talk to about anything.

 

[Stacyhs]

I wish Harris well and hope she wins, but I'm getting utterly sick of the sight of her manic, mouth wide open 'smile'.

I'd much rather see a wide open and genuine smile than Trump's disingenuous smirk that passes for a smile.

 

[arthwollipot]

I'd much rather see a wide open and genuine smile than Trump's disingenuous smirk that passes for a smile.

I think I saw him briefly crack an actual, genuine smile when he talked about Arnold Palmer's penis. It's the only time I've ever seen that.

 

[Reformed Offlian]

I think I saw him briefly crack an actual, genuine smile when he talked about Arnold Palmer's penis. It's the only time I've ever seen that.

I hear that in the Trump bible, the description of the Behemoth in Job has been modified to refer to Arnold Palmer.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

I wish Harris well and hope she wins, but I'm getting utterly sick of the sight of her manic, mouth wide open 'smile'.

That’s…strange.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

I avoid listening to Harris speak, as I am not a fan of her "okay?" .
but that's my problem.

 

[Reformed Offlian]

Yeah, because if there's one thing positive one can say about Donald Trump, it is that he has no annoying tics or mannerisms whatsoever...

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Yeah, because if there's one thing positive one can say about Donald Trump, it is that he has no annoying tics or mannerisms whatsoever...

i never listen to Trump, fullstop.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Biden says Trump and the Republicans are garbage.

I'm sure that has helped her campaign

 

[Andy_Ross]

Nah, it was pointing out the ecological fallacy. Ken has made a baseless assumption that Trump supporters are more likely to control their spouses than Harris supporters. That assumption is driven by Ken's pre-existing belief that all Trump supporters (and by extension anyone who merely isn't a Harris supporter) is a bad person all around, a bigot and a racist and a sexist and any other bad term that they imagine can be applied to "the other guys". There's no evidence, no rationale involved.

I am not assuming that there's any material difference in the rates of domestic violence of coercive control by party.

Dale Partridge, Pastor of Kingsway Reformed Church in Prescott Arizona says

In a Christian marriage, a wife should vote according to her husband’s direction.

He is the head and they are one.

Unity extends to politics.

This is not controversial.

“But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.” -Ephesians 5:24

Now, submission does have limits. A wife doesn’t need to submit to her husband in sin (in this case voting democrat). In such cases, she submits to her heads’s Head—Christ. But outside of clear accounts of sin, she ought to conform and be one with her husband in all things.

Remember voting Democrat is a sin in the eyes of God!

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I like the "This is not controversial" bit. It set my mind at ease. I was worried that coercing someone to vote in a particular way might be unlawful but if it's not controversial for a married woman to be mere chattal and have absolutely no agency to express an opinion then I guess it's obviously fine.

 

[Andy_Ross]

It's a husband's duty to keep his wife from sinning

 

[Tero]

Plus the Trump voters (men) are likely to have the gun in the family. The wife better not tell ever that she voted Harris.

 

[Fast Eddie B]

This just came across my Facebook feed:

From the “likes” and comments below, you can see it’s a popular opinion, at least where I am right now in N GA.

I’m still confounded how a man such as Trump, along with his complicit sycophants, could breed such distrust in our electoral system. It’s all quite depressing.