Cont: 2024 Election Thread part 2

[gnome]

Nonsense - everyone knows they come from h'africa.

Of course they come from Halfrica. The other half are ruled by some guy named Dominic.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump at his press conference said the only reason the stock market has been breaking records for the past year is because investors think he’s going to win.

 

[gnome]

Because that's worked for them so far.

It's not like this is some untested tactic that failed them in the past.

This is a guy who ran on "I'm gonna build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" and then got elected, didn't built the wall, asked his followers to pay for the wall he promised Mexico would pay for, their dumb asses did it, and then he still didn't build the wall.

Again will it work again, will it work long term, all that is highly debatable but there is no way to deny that acting exactly this stupid in exactly this way is what got Trump elected in the first place.

Trump is Don McLean playing a concert. Yeah I'm pretty sure he's gonna play American Pie.

You left out "had one of his buddies steal his followers' money, get caught, and then pardoned him."

 

[Dr.Sid]

Anyone who thinks you can walk up to a goose and just take it hasn't been within 100 meters of an actual goose.

Well .. the man on the photo clearly had a goose. It's not known if he's a migrant, much less if he's from Haiti. But he had a dead goose.
I don't doubt actual goose is easy to catch, especially if you don't want to hurt it. I don't doubt it's doable, especially if you want it for a dinner.

Again, I see weird media mania. Trump claims people eating cats and dogs, actual pets, are an important issue. On the other hand, others claim it never ever happened, that it will never happen, that it's impossible to happen.
Of course there are people who eat animals they catch on the street. Of course it's not a big problem.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Trumpat hi press conference said the only reason the stock market has been breaking records for the past year is because investors think he’s going to win.

I'm tired of being told to do something because of how the stock market is going to react.

1. Because the stock market isn't the economy and isn't what most Americans care about.

2. Because let's be honest. They could go "The stock market went up or down based on X" and nobody could argue otherwise.

Tomorrow they announce that unemployment went up a significant amount. Is the stock market going to go up or down? I don't know, you don't know, and if you say you know you're lying. It's a goddamn wizards duel where a small group of very high end companies are just making the rules up where they go and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Well .. the man on the photo clearly had a goose. It's not known if he's a migrant, much less if he's from Haiti. But he had a dead goose.
I don't doubt actual goose is easy to catch, especially if you don't want to hurt it. I don't doubt it's doable, especially if you want it for a dinner.

Again, I see weird media mania. Trump claims people eating cats and dogs, actual pets, are an important issue. On the other hand, others claim it never ever happened, that it will never happen, that it's impossible to happen.
Of course there are people who eat animals they catch on the street. Of course it's not a big problem.

This kind of "Okay but you can't prove it never happens ever" is the worth kind of "bothsideism."

 

[slyjoe]

Trump at his press conference



Not Haiti then?

They aren't illegal. They have protected status. As do those from Venezuela if they fill out the right form.

 

[slyjoe]

I'm tired of being told to do something because of how the stock market is going to react.

1. Because the stock market isn't the economy and isn't what most Americans care about.

2. Because let's be honest. They could go "The stock market went up or down based on X" and nobody could argue otherwise.

Tomorrow they announce that unemployment went up a significant amount. Is the stock market going to go up or down? I don't know, you don't know, and if you say you know you're lying. It's a goddamn wizards duel where a small group of very high end companies are just making the rules up where they go and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

Exactly right. These stock market predictions always come out after the fact.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Four Seasons Total Landscaping
@TotalSeasons

Had to cancel a contract in Springfield today because of the weather. It was raining cats and dogs. I’m stuffed.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump:

"They fly them in by jets. They're flying in all the time...And they have a special app where the cartels are allowed to use the app to get their people in. You believe this? It's an app for cartels."

 

[Dr.Sid]

This kind of "Okay but you can't prove it never happens ever" is the worth kind of "bothsideism."

I'm not saying you can't prove it. I'm saying nobody actually believes it's not happening. Also I don't see why you wouldn't be able to prove something like that. You can, and people will. Which will make Harris look real stupid. The defense should be "it's not something relevant to election" .. rather than "it has never happened, and never will".

 

[dudalb]

It's that glitchy AI effort at making it look like words but fails. It can be "read", in the sense the letters are legible, but they aren't words, at least in english.

"MAIY OFI IV OLURENCE"

It's also worth noting, right above that line there's a star, a dot, then four more stars. But at the top there are six stars.

There's also some kind of completely unreadable text in the lower right corner that's part of the red border, that I'm guessing is intended to be the Union Label to make it more convincing.

ANy compute program is only as "smart" as the people using it.

 

[Stacyhs]

Anyone who thinks you can walk up to a goose and just take it hasn't been within 100 meters of an actual goose.

Well .. the man on the photo clearly had a goose. It's not known if he's a migrant, much less if he's from Haiti. But he had a dead goose.
I don't doubt actual goose is easy to catch, especially if you don't want to hurt it. I don't doubt it's doable, especially if you want it for a dinner.

Again, I see weird media mania. Trump claims people eating cats and dogs, actual pets, are an important issue. On the other hand, others claim it never ever happened, that it will never happen, that it's impossible to happen.
Of course there are people who eat animals they catch on the street. Of course it's not a big problem.

For all we know, that goose was roadkill. The man who actually took that picture is none too happy with how it's being used:

Columbus man regrets taking goose photo he says is being weaponized against immigrants

The Columbus man behind a photo of a person carrying a dead goose that was spread among right-wing social media accounts this week said he now regrets taking the photo.

The man, who wished to remain anonymous, took the picture in Columbus on July 28 and decided to share it because it was not "something you see every day," he said.

He never expected it to be used as proof by right-wing figures falsely claiming that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are eating pets and wildlife.

"I wish I never took it, for sure. And I hate that the picture that I took is being weaponized to use against immigrants, or really, any other group. They always have to have somebody to use as a weapon. Some group to be the bad guy," he said.

Somewhere along the way, the photo was picked up by several right-wing X profiles as alleged proof of the claims.

"Then all of (these claims) supposedly they're going and killing all of the wildlife and whatever. That's ridiculous. But people see things that are spread and have no idea what the truth is, but they spread it like it's truth. And I feel like the only person that knows what really happened to the goose is the guy that had the goose," the poster said in a phone interview with the Dispatch.

 

[dudalb]

Gee. every political writer in the country is referring to Taylor Swift's statement as an endorsement of Harris, though it is careful in the language it uses.
Cut out the semantics. That was a endorsement.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Sane, "my brain works within normal parameters" people are not obligated to stop discourse every time Trump says something absolutely beyond ballsack insane to acknowledge some pedantic, pettyfogging "Minimal amount of truth contained anywhere in the statement" check in the box.

They are not being honest. WE aren't obligated to give them the benefit of crossing all our Ts and dotting all our Is for no reason and purpose.

And to what end? We all ******* know we COULD go "Here, it's a mathematical formula that proves within metaphysical certainty that nobody could eat a cat" and it wouldn't change their mind at all.

Civil discourse and rules of debate are there for people who are correct or "wrong within normal parameters."

"Oh the Trumper doesn't think I've countered his argument well enough." Fine. I'll sleep at night.

 

[Checkmite]

Evidently Springfield's government offices and schools are being bombarded with bomb and terrorism threats, in retaliation for local police officials stating for the record that there have been no reports of immigrants stealing and eating peoples' pets.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Gee. every political writer in the country is referring to Taylor Swift's statement as an endorsement of Harris, though it is careful in the language it uses.
Cut out the semantics. That was a endorsement.

The "Weirdest Hill" basket must be really nice this month going by some arguments the last couple of days. Must have Ferrero Rochers in them.

Why does it matter?

"Swift made a public appeal to get out and vote. She didn't specifically mention her own political stances, but they are hardly not well know public knowledge."

There. Paradox (that never existed in the first place) solved.

 

[dudalb]

The whole Goose thing shows how desperate the Trump campaign is.
SOrry, but someone poachng a goose , if true, does not have the same emotional punch that stealing someone's pet cat or dog does.
And you don't hav the yuck factor; geese are perfectly acceptale to eat in the US. dogs and cats are not.
Lame, Donnie really lame.

 

[dudalb]

Evidently Springfield's government offices and schools are being bombarded with bomb and terrorism threats, in retaliation for local police officials stating for the record that there have been no reports of immigrants stealing and eating peoples' pets.

No matter what happens, i see widespread political violence in the US
s future. Trump has unleasehd the forces of hell, and he cannot control them.

 

[Stacyhs]

Evidently Springfield's government offices and schools are being bombarded with bomb and terrorism threats, in retaliation for local police officials stating for the record that there have been no reports of immigrants stealing and eating peoples' pets.

Small price to pay for Trump and Vance getting to stir up their idiot followers even more than usual.