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Demographics of Sexual Orientation and Identity

The Great Zaganza

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation

a lot of rhetoric about LGBTQ+ issues seem to be conducted without ever giving actual numbers of how many people we are actually talking about.
The other issue is the question whether there is a significant change happening in these numbers in recent years or decades.

And a secondary issue, which nevertheless seems to be at the forefront of this issue, is if any change in the numbers we see the result of actual changes, or just more accurate reporting.


In particular, we have almost no reliable global data on the number of people identifying as trans, despite the fact that this seems to be the no.1 issue for Republicans in the current election.

Objectively, this does not seem to be an issue of Sexual Orientation and Identity at all, but a issue of the propriety of displaying any deviation from the 2-gender norm in public.

The baseline sentiment for a significant number of Americans seem to be that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" should be the obvious thing to do for everyone not following the the basic Man-Women dichotomy, and they are less upset by the existence of other orientations and identities but rather the open display of them, and their elevation to public awareness in culture.

and on some level, this is very understandable: adding any variables to the way in which we have to think about our fellow humans who we encounter on a daily basis adds cognitive load, and anxiety over potential mistakes and the resulting embarrassment.
On the other hand, this really shouldn't be a big deal if you just treat other humans humanely.

But it is this anxiety that the Right Wing Media sphere, and the current Republican Party are boosting beyond any level that is proportionate to the issue.
And their voters are grateful for it, as this seems to one of those rare problems that might actually go away for a while if you just scream at it loudly enough.
 
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Those English results were +/- what I thought they were over here in the states, too. About 90% straight, 10% not/entirely straight, although I thought gay/lesbian would make up a much higher percentage. Seems that bisexuality (and pansexuality etc) make up the lion's share.
 
If so, it's been one before there were humans - it's the norm in mammals.

Animals don't have so many psychological and social hangups. If it feels good, and doesn't seem to put them in immediate danger, they'll do it. Sex is just friction and chemicals, after all. What's the big deal?
 
That's a fad.

I'm not so sure.

I've had a handful of girlfriends that were 'lesbian'.

So... Maybe things have never been that clear-cut, and pan-sexuality is just easier to talk about now.

I think, 'mostly lesbian' or such like has existed for a while (since forever, most likely).

I asked a girlfriend about this once, and she said:

"You're the kind of guy that attracts a girl who's unsure about her sexuality."

This still doesn't sit well with me.

:(
 
That's a fad.

Seems to me the push to create acceptance of it is the actual "fad", though it's actually a necessary movement.

Once it's seen as uncontroversial, the few who may be faking it or are caught up in a popular trend but who cringe at actual same-sex sex will drop out and the "fad" for same-sex relationships will just be seen as normal diversity.

Try seeing it as uncontroversial, not a fad, and you'll contribute to the rate of drop-outs.
 
Prior to medication and surgery for T being monetised, the highest number I have seen is 1 in 3,000. The lowest 1 in 20,000.
So 0.033% to 0.005%. (Used calculator)
Leor Sapir is the authority I cite.
 
It is possible that Conservatives gave up their war against Gays once it became clear that they are not a tiny minority, but might be 1 in 10, with pretty much everyone knows some people in their circle.

So far, trans is still one of those things most people don't have any direct experience with, making it much easier to demonize.
 
I approach every issue involving living breathing people with empathy first. I'm still quite interested in the possible etiology of gender incongruence. What could cause seemingly hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. alone to feel they're in the wrong body? Is there a psychosocial element here that still hasn't been untangled? Is the incidence of this pretty steady and we've only measured it now?
 
The problem with demographics is that historically these groups have been so discriminated against - to the point of being criminalised, harassed, assaulted and outright murdered - for being who they are that there's been a cultural inhibition to coming out. This is much lessened for gay people now, less so for bi and pan, and it's still very hard for transgender people to come out and present as their true identity in public.

So it's kind of hard for science to get reliable numbers.
 
I feel like it's a lot of commitment to **** someone you're not even oriented towards to stay fashionable. Guess a trendsetters gotta do who a trendsetters gotta do.

What commitment is required to claim to be bisexual? You can be in a monogamous, heterosexual relationship and claim to be bisexual, especially if that gives you special status as part of alphabet gang.
 
and that special status would be ... ?

do you get a second vote if you are bi ?
is there a special VP section ?
Or are you referring to the fat government payouts and tax cuts for people saying they are bisexual ?
 
An unscientific sample, but of my 1011 friends on Facebook, I know 6 to be trans.

2 on my list of a little bit less than 300 FB friends (and 2 more besides those on FB), which turns out to be more or less the same fraction.
 
Perhaps sexuality is a range of behaviors and inclindations rather than states of inherent being.
 

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