SpitfireIX
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I might as well start the thread.
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Trump Assassination Attempt Conspiracy Theories
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alfaniner
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Lots of questions come immediately to mind, the main one being:
How did anyone with a weapon get into striking range? Did Trump insist the mags (magnetometers -- metal/weapon detectors) not be used, like he wanted at his Jan 6 rally? ("Hey, they aren't here to hurt me!!!")
Weapon? A BB gun was suggested but we'll find out in short notice.
There could have been no better result (for Trump) than what happened. An apparently minor injury in a non-critical place. And prominent enough to be able to show off the bandage for some time. A soon-to-be-iconic photo, perfectly staged, some say. (At any rate, kudos to the photographer!)
How did anyone with a weapon get into striking range? Did Trump insist the mags (magnetometers -- metal/weapon detectors) not be used, like he wanted at his Jan 6 rally? ("Hey, they aren't here to hurt me!!!")
Weapon? A BB gun was suggested but we'll find out in short notice.
There could have been no better result (for Trump) than what happened. An apparently minor injury in a non-critical place. And prominent enough to be able to show off the bandage for some time. A soon-to-be-iconic photo, perfectly staged, some say. (At any rate, kudos to the photographer!)
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bruto
Penultimate Amazing
If I were inclined to conspiracy theories I might speculate that it's all a put up job to boost Trump. If I were inclined to foment conspiracies, I might well suggest that. In actual fact, I think it's more likely some deranged idiot, doing a stupid thing. Exactly who it was and exactly what they intended hardly matters. It's wrong from every angle.
SpitfireIX
Philosopher
Photos appear to show the shooter was on the roof of a building outside the perimeter. BBC interviewed someone who claimed he told the police about a guy with a rifle, but they didn't seem to act with much urgency.
alfaniner
Penultimate Amazing
Antifa should've hired Alec Baldwin. He succeeds without even trying!
(No, I'm not going to apologize or even feel bad about posting that.)
(No, I'm not going to apologize or even feel bad about posting that.)
Safe-Keeper
My avatar is not a Drumpf hat
The security breach is what I'm the most curious about, other than the political views of the shooter, of course. How did anyone get a gun within striking range of the former Führer and current Führer candidate. I know Dump hires 'the best people', but Secret Service, thank god, operates independently of him. Weird that they would mess up like this.
I'm not a CTer, of course, I know this is like asking how the terrorists got can opener onto a plane on 9/11. It's just surprising to me.
I'm not a CTer, of course, I know this is like asking how the terrorists got can opener onto a plane on 9/11. It's just surprising to me.
Safe-Keeper
My avatar is not a Drumpf hat
No need to. This is horrible, but not because I care the least bit about Dump. I don't want him to become a martyr, and I know this will cause ripple effects that will get others hurt, probably killed. Most likely including innocents. The far-right has gone after people in the US and Europe lately already, this will rile them up even more.
In isolation, though? **** him. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. He's been actively polarizing the country and advocating and celebrating violence since 2016. He got what was coming to him.
alfaniner
Penultimate Amazing
I don't think it's like that at all. Airport security was much more lax then (and I think it was box cutters -- razor blades in a housing.) And since Reagan got shot, Secret Service Security has been improved by orders of magnitude. But, missing a line-of-sight, rooftop potential firing line, especially for a former President and current candidate? Incompetence.
Safe-Keeper
My avatar is not a Drumpf hat
Fair enough.
Edit: to be fair, though, I meant it more like "people thought it was weird that they managed to board the plane with can openers, but there was a perfectly reasonable explanation for that. The same way, I think it's weird that someone would manage to get within firing range of Dump with a gun, but it's possibly harder than I imagined to cordon off such a big area, especially in the age of with high-powered long-range weapons."
I believe you when you say incompetence, though. Seems it'd be easy to have a presence on that roof.
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bknight
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I watched news of the shooting and it was not a BB gun.
One website has already identified the shooter by name and antifa affiliation within a few hours of the shooting.
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2024/07/13/trump-shot/
Ranb
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2024/07/13/trump-shot/
Ranb
Safe-Keeper
My avatar is not a Drumpf hat
Between the obvious slant, the "The media is the virus" t-shirt, and the over-the-top headlines ("Biden has zero chance of winning..."), that totally looks like a rational and believable site.
It has been reported that the shooter was outside of the fenced in area where the event was taking place. Other reports say it was an AR-15 type rifle. But the press says that about any rifle that is black and with a detachable magazine.
https://www.businessinsider.com/eye...ring-trump-shooting-bbc-interview-2024-7?op=1
Puppycow
Penultimate Amazing
Clearly wrong. The shooter is dead.
Puppycow
Penultimate Amazing
Given that someone other than Trump was killed, and others with serious wounds, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a BB gun.
The Great Zaganza
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A creative way for the Biden Team to get talk of his mental fitness out of the News
The Great Zaganza
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More likely:
Henchmen from the Heritage Foundation because Trump threw them under the bus.
Henchmen from the Heritage Foundation because Trump threw them under the bus.
alfaniner
Penultimate Amazing
I'm curious about the crazy talk about his shoes. My guess is, since he had those 3-inch (or whatever) lifts, when he went down he popped out of them. He wasn't going to be seen leaving the stage three inches shorter than when he got up there.
Jim_MDP
Penultimate Amazing
Hours ago, the YT comment blather included "... why was the audio censored right after he mentioned his shoes?" It wasn't very coherent in who to blame. I like your line of thought better. [emoji14]