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The Great Zaganza said:
The only reason why trickle down economics hasn't worked yet is because we haven't been giving the Billionaires enough money
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That's true--once just one billionaire achieves a net worth of $10 trillion, it will just take one to divest all their wealth and supply the entire population with a livable annual stipend. :)
 
Safe-Keeper said:
It's a weird world you live in if you think Biden having a bad night means Dump is no longer struggling politically, financially, legally, and cognitively. Do you think he transferred his misfortunates to Biden through some black magic or something?
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It’s a strange world you live in where the prediction markets and Nate Silver‘s model, which give Trump a 2:1 advantage over Biden, can simply be ignored.
 
jt512 said:
I think you need to look into how corporate bankruptcies work.
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well regardless of how chapter 11 helped him decades ago, his only real source of wealth has been his persona, and the more insane he gets that value keeps dropping. As the recent judgements in civil court have proven.
 
stanfr said:
well regardless of how chapter 11 helped him decades ago, his only real source of wealth has been his persona, and the more insane he gets that value keeps dropping. As the recent judgements in civil court have proven.
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If that persona gets him elected to the most powerful position in the world, it'll be hard to argue that it's lost a lot of value.
 
No matter who loses this election, it won't be at all hard to argue that it means nothing about how much of a winner the other one is. It will just mean the other one was an even bigger loser.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
It's a weird world you live in if you think Biden having a bad night means Dump is no longer struggling politically, financially, legally, and cognitively. Do you think he transferred his misfortunates to Biden through some black magic or something?
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Way to miss the point. Of course Trump is still a huge pile of **** in human form, but he was supposed to be the loser of the debate, according to analysis prior to it happening.

How do you think it went?
 
sir drinks-a-lot said:
I think we can now say with confidence that Trump is not struggling cognitively. That is exclusively Biden's turf.
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Uh-huh...right. How easily you forget all the many, many things he said that would contradict that.

Relying on not answering the questions asked by the mod but resorting to his knee-jerk rhetoric and lies is not showing great cognitive skills.

He told over 30 provable lies during the debate as detailed by fact checkers.
 
The Atheist said:
Way to miss the point. Of course Trump is still a huge pile of **** in human form, but he was supposed to be the loser of the debate, according to analysis prior to it happening.

How do you think it went?
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There was no winner of that debate. They both lost for different reasons.

Unless you consider ignoring the actual question and repeating the same old false rhetoric somehow 'winning' a debate?

I don't consider telling over 30 proven lies to be winning a debate.
 
jt512 said:
I think you need to look into how corporate bankruptcies work.
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The way they work is a business takes out loans and obligations which they determine they can't pay, so they go to a bankruptcy court for the creditors to get at least some of their money back.

Trump lost so much money running casinos that they had to file bankruptcy, twice. People who invested in his brand, along with people who were hired to work for him, lost bigly.
 
jt512 said:
It’s a strange world you live in where the prediction markets and Nate Silver‘s model, which give Trump a 2:1 advantage over Biden, can simply be ignored.
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Nate Silver is predicting the Presidential election outcome 4+ months out based on polls?
 
Don't forget that everyone who saw Biden showing his age in that debate also saw

​a) Biden answering the questions put to him honestly

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b) Trump ignoring most of the questions put to him in favour of trotting out the same old memorised lies
 
The little money for Biden at $5 appears to have dried up, with his odds staying firm at $4-50 and Trump at $1-57.

Considering it's a two-horse race and Biden is the incumbent, it's absolutely unheard-of to be at those odds 4 months out from the election.

If those of you who are so sure he's going to win aren't gobbling up those odds, tell me why. It looks like a good way to pay off your mortgage, or at least fund a nice cruise. The bookies are seeing the race like Secretariat v a Budweiser Clydesdale.
 
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