General UK politics VII -Return of the Starmer

[The Don]

Everybody has a personal allowance. Roughly speaking, you don't pay income tax unless your income (including pension) is over that threshold. As the basic threshold personal allowance is circa £12K and the average state pension circa £9K you don't pay any tax. Even then you only pay tax on the portion that is above your personal allowance.

The people worried about being taxed more are those in the wealthiest bands. So ignore Sunak's alarm messaging, as you should be OK. No more than a couple of bob a month if push comes to shove for the the lowest 60% of the population income band.

Yup, the full state pension is currently just over £11k a year and the single person allowance is just over £12.5k.

As you, and others, correctly pointed out, the state pension is taxable but if it is your sole source of income then you wouldn't currently pay tax but then again you would likely be also in receipt of other benefits which may or may not be taxable.

Around 20% of men and 33% of women in receipt of the state pension have no private pension but the majority of pensioners do have to pay income tax.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

I suspect there has been some jokes in the UK over the July Fourth date....like nothing of importance ever happned on that date.

From my time in the UK. No, it's just another day, no specific jokes or anything.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Reform are attacking the Tory and Labour candidates in Clacton for criticising Farage for not attending the Hustings in the constituency.
He's too busy on his paid speaking tour apparently.
It shows what the voters of Clacton can expect of him if he wins.

Apparently saying this is election manipulation and 'playing politics'

Do they know how an election campaign actually actually works?

No, they're a private company who put up a bunch of idiots and novelty cadidates, not a party.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

According to Phil Moorhouse it's been revealed that Sunak knew about Craig Williams, and Williams admitted placing the bet, a week before the story broke. That's three weeks ago (less one day) and had he acted immediately the candidate could have been replaced on the ballot at that time.

True, they waited too long because of lawlessness rather than ignorance of the bets.

Labour did the same thing (albeit their candidate's scandal was in relation to the 7th October Hamas terrorist attacks) with the Rochdale bye, protecting a leader loyalist until it was too late.

 

[Scorpion]

Yup, the full state pension is currently just over £11k a year and the single person allowance is just over £12.5k.

As you, and others, correctly pointed out, the state pension is taxable but if it is your sole source of income then you wouldn't currently pay tax but then again you would likely be also in receipt of other benefits which may or may not be taxable.

Around 20% of men and 33% of women in receipt of the state pension have no private pension but the majority of pensioners do have to pay income tax.

I was worried for a bit as my pension may be less than £12k But I also get housing benefit. I just looked it up and housing benefit is not taxable.
I was worried I owed years of back taxes, but I don't.

 

[Darat]

I have seen a video on twitter where he does state that in a discussion with Sadiq Khan.

No you haven't.

 

[Scorpion]

No you haven't.

He does discuss penalizing islamophobia in a video. I just reposted it and if you look me up on twitter (x) you will see it at. @dajjal_dd

 

[zooterkin]

He does discuss penalizing islamophobia in a video. I just reposted it and if you look me up on twitter (x) you will see it at. @dajjal_dd

Which is not the same as introducing a blasphemy law, which was your original claim.

 

[Darat]

He does discuss penalizing islamophobia in a video. I just reposted it and if you look me up on twitter (x) you will see it at. @dajjal_dd

Sorry don't do X.

 

[Scorpion]

Which is not the same as introducing a blasphemy law, which was your original claim.

How else would he penalize Islamophobia without bringing in a law?

In any case I took my quote from the title over the video that the person who posted it said. He said "Starmer promises to bring in Blasphemy laws against those who use the "slur" of Islamophobia, online or in person."

 

[Lothian]

I suspect there has been some jokes in the UK over the July Fourth date....like nothing of importance ever happned on that date.

Don't be silly. We are well aware of the world wide importance of the date
Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland was published,
Jack Johnson defeated James Jackson Jeffries,
The Republic of the Philippines was proclaimed an independent country,
Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider at CERN announced that they had detected an interesting signal that was likely from a Higgs boson.

 

[jeremyp]

The anti-ULEZ brigade are pining for the days when Del Boy and Robin heroically ran through the twilight streets of the hinterlands in their Batman and Robin outfits. They were the prophets that foresaw the hated ULEZ cameras. The blue print Blade Runners. They will be appearing in North East Derbyshire soon. You just wait and see, infidel.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ant-one-Sadiq-Khans-low-emission-cameras.html

Fun fact, the street that Del and Rodney really ran through in their Batman and Robin outfits was in the middle of my constituency (Bristol). Quite a lot of Only Fools and Horses was filmed in Bristol.

It's also in the middle of our clean air zone.

 

[Scorpion]

Sorry don't do X.

You don't do x, you don't know what you are missing, I spend a lot of my time on x criticizing the Quran. My name there is Dajjal, the Muslim anti Christ.

 

[Lothian]

How else would he penalize Islamophobia without bringing in a law?

In any case I took my quote from the title over the video that the person who posted it said. He said "Starmer promises to bring in Blasphemy laws against those who use the "slur" of Islamophobia, online or in person."

Blasphemy and Islamaphobia laws would penalise totally different things.

When it comes to laws the words used are very important and you should understand what they mean before you start copying and pasting them.

 

[jeremyp]

It's known as hedging your bets. A Spurs supporter I knew always bet against Spurs winning because he reasoned that whichever way the game went at least he'd get some joy out of it.
On another betting note, Robert Peston has been hinting that a personal protection officer or police office seems to have used the name of a cabinet minister when they placed an election bet (wink, wink, unless of course it was the actual cabinet minister...! ).

He's probably quite well off now.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Farange comes off to me like a Oswald Mosley wannabe.

I've long said he's a real life expy for Wodehouse's Roderick Spode, and like the head Black Short he'll probably end up a Lord.

 

[catsmate]

Farange comes off to me like a Oswald Mosley wannabe.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

From my time in the UK. No, it's just another day, no specific jokes or anything.

That's changed a bit in recent years, some pubs for example will use it as the theme for a summer party, but regardless effectively everyone knows 4th July is 'Independence Day' which makes choosing it as the election date when you've been the ruling party for a decade & a half is a remarkably tone deaf.

 

[jimbob]

I suspect there has been some jokes in the UK over the July Fourth date....like nothing of importance ever happned on that date.

I have seen a handful

Farange comes off to me like a Oswald Mosley wannabe.

Yup

 

[jeremyp]

That's changed a bit in recent years, some pubs for example will use it as the theme for a summer party, but regardless effectively everyone knows 4th July is 'Independence Day' which makes choosing it as the election date when you've been the ruling party for a decade & a half is a remarkably tone deaf.

I've got to the point where I find it remarkable if something the Tory Party does isn't tone deaf.