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I saw Biden today in what initially I thought was soooo fake. Frozen Biden.

He stood so very still, like those statue people painted metallic colors in city centers. Just completely frozen. All around him, people are dancing and clapping with the beat of the music just inches from him.
It looks more like someone inserted a cardboard cutout of him into the video.

He def won't make it. They were stupid to try. Rate of decline grows. It will only get worse.
No way this man will be allowed to debate Trump.

They need a replacement STAT!

I didn't vote for him in the primary. But, link, please??
 
I didn't vote for him in the primary. But, link, please??

Found the link on x and cannot see one in you tube to embed here. Maybe someone can verify it is real? Seems very real...and unreal at the same time.

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1800358525450801551

Eta: found whole thing...it was a Juneteenth event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZCxjiLqyEU

The main frozen/dancing part starts about 55 min in and goes on until Biden is obscured by the dance floor. Might be other snippets too but I didn't watch the whole thing.
 
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Found the link on x and cannot see one in you tube to embed here. Maybe someone can verify it is real? Seems very real...and unreal at the same time.

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1800358525450801551

Eta: found whole thing...it was a Juneteenth event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZCxjiLqyEU

The main frozen/dancing part starts about 55 min in and goes on until Biden is obscured by the dance floor. Might be other snippets too but I didn't watch the whole thing.

Devastating footage of a man watching a performance.
 
Devastating footage of a man watching a performance.

Agree. :thumbsup:

ETA. Also, how much do people need to explain how bad this is... over and over and over.
Just ignore it and make sarcastic snide remarks to whoever points out the VERY obvious decline. ???

If Biden is the choice on the ballot, Trump wins- a massive crushing win.
There is still some time for a replacement but getting Kamala out as well and replacing her with anyone white or male will be tricky. But they absolutely should do it. ANYONE ELSE.
 
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Agree. :thumbsup:

ETA. Also, how much do people need to explain how bad this is... over and over and over.
Just ignore it and make sarcastic snide remarks to whoever points out the VERY obvious decline. ???

If Biden is the choice on the ballot, Trump wins- a massive crushing win.
There is still some time for a replacement but getting Kamala out as well and replacing her with anyone white or male will be tricky. But they absolutely should do it. ANYONE ELSE.

OK, thanks for the link. Honestly, I think you are overreacting. And the press is partly to blame, because they put Biden under the microscope for every sign of old age while Trump's mental illness and dementia gets a pass, because it would be 'mean' to point it out or something. To me (as one who wish Biden was not the nominee, and I agree he is too old) this is not that damning. It looks pretty normal behavior to me for a man who is 81 years old (!) When my father was 81 he was in worse shape (physically) than this. What do you expect, for him to jump and dance around like he is 30? Just looked to me like he was not quite in his element and he was just trying to conserve energy. Has very little relevance to his competency as President, IMO. Contrast his normal signs of aging with Trump's increasingly incoherent garbled madness, phonemic paraphasia that is clear indication of the onset of dementia--it's really no contest.
 
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Agree. :thumbsup:

ETA. Also, how much do people need to explain how bad this is... over and over and over.
Just ignore it and make sarcastic snide remarks to whoever points out the VERY obvious decline. ???

If Biden is the choice on the ballot, Trump wins- a massive crushing win.
There is still some time for a replacement but getting Kamala out as well and replacing her with anyone white or male will be tricky. But they absolutely should do it. ANYONE ELSE.

If you want to make this case, maybe come up with a better video than Biden standing still while watching a performance.

And by the way, this is the guy you cited and who you’re here parroting:
Clay Travis said:
I believe the coronavirus is overrated and we are overreacting to it because it is a new and novel fear. The flu happens every year and affects far more people than the coronavirus does.

So we have video of an old man not dancing while he’s watching a musical performance and this makes him a “space cadet” according to some right wing dope whose views on Covid clearly demonstrate he has lost his grip on reality.

And this is somehow supposed to demonstrate that Biden is in decline. Well done. Bravo.
 
OK, thanks for the link. Honestly, I think you are overreacting. And the press is partly to blame, because they put Biden under the microscope for every sign of old age while Trump's mental illness and dementia gets a pass, because it would be 'mean' to point it out or something. To me (as one who wish Biden was not the nominee, and I agree he is too old) this is not that damning. It looks pretty normal behavior to me for a man who is 81 years old (!) When my father was 81 he was in worse shape (physically) than this. What do you expect, for him to jump and dance around like he is 30? Just looked to me like he was not quite in his element and he was just trying to conserve energy. Has very little relevance to his competency as President, IMO. Contrast his normal signs of aging with Trump's increasingly incoherent garbled madness, phonemic paraphasia that is clear indication of the onset of dementia--it's really no contest.

It’s pretty clear that the guy whose tweet was cited didn’t realize they were all watching a performance. He seems to think Biden is just staring off into space while everyone around him is dancing. Brain worms can sometime impair ones ability to comprehend things.
 
Agree. :thumbsup:

ETA. Also, how much do people need to explain how bad this is... over and over and over.
Just ignore it and make sarcastic snide remarks to whoever points out the VERY obvious decline. ???

If Biden is the choice on the ballot, Trump wins- a massive crushing win.
There is still some time for a replacement but getting Kamala out as well and replacing her with anyone white or male will be tricky. But they absolutely should do it. ANYONE ELSE.

Harris is a White Male's idea of a Black Woman.

Dems would not lose a single Black vote if they replaced her with someone not Black and not female.
 
It looks like Kennedy is taking more votes from Trump than from Biden. If his own hired representative a month or two ago was representing him accurately, meaning his purpose in running is to work against Biden and give Trump the win, he'll probably realize that what he's doing is counterproductive and drop out.
 
There's just no getting anyone to see what is in front of them. If there was a better Democrat leading the race, you'd all see it so clear. 100%

Anyone who sees the weakness of Biden as a candidate is automatically deemed "enemy of the thread"
Maybe it is a sign of the aging decline in this very forum. I think the average poster here is well over retirement age from what I see.

Trump will win over Biden. If you do not like that outcome, and I am one of those "no to both" people myself,then STOP covering for this old man who is being embarrassed in front of the world.
Trump should be way easier to beat. Easy to beat! We haveso many to choose that are younger, smarter, more vibrant!
But not with all these deranged voters settling for the elderly frozen or shuffling mumble talker.
 
It looks like Kennedy is taking more votes from Trump than from Biden. If his own hired representative a month or two ago was representing him accurately, meaning his purpose in running is to work against Biden and give Trump the win, he'll probably realize that what he's doing is counterproductive and drop out.


Trump wants and has welcomed RFK Jr in the debates (if he can qualify for what CNN has as its rules) Biden doesn't say if Kennedy should be there.

I think they should include Kennedy and perhaps 2 other parties as well. Do you?

Americans should hear many voices that represent millions, even though small in comparison.
 
There's just no getting anyone to see what is in front of them. If there was a better Democrat leading the race, you'd all see it so clear. 100%

Anyone who sees the weakness of Biden as a candidate is automatically deemed "enemy of the thread"
Maybe it is a sign of the aging decline in this very forum. I think the average poster here is well over retirement age from what I see.

Trump will win over Biden. If you do not like that outcome, and I am one of those "no to both" people myself,then STOP covering for this old man who is being embarrassed in front of the world.
Trump should be way easier to beat. Easy to beat! We haveso many to choose that are younger, smarter, more vibrant!
But not with all these deranged voters settling for the elderly frozen or shuffling mumble talker.

There's just no getting anyone to see what is in front of them. If there was a better Democrat leading the race, you'd all see it so clear. 100%

Anyone who sees the weakness of Biden as a candidate is automatically deemed "enemy of the thread"
Maybe it is a sign of the aging decline in this very forum. I think the average poster here is well over retirement age from what I see.

Trump will win over Biden. If you do not like that outcome, and I am one of those "no to both" people myself,then STOP covering for this old man who is being embarrassed in front of the world.
Trump should be way easier to beat. Easy to beat! We haveso many to choose that are younger, smarter, more vibrant!
But not with all these deranged voters settling for the elderly frozen or shuffling mumble talker.

No one has made you “enemy of the thread”. You’ve only been mocked and criticized. That you immediately pivoted to a persecution complex speaks volumes.

The idea that there is some perfect candidate that could handily beat Trump is laughably stupid. It wouldn’t matter who the Democrats nominated. The propaganda machine that is the Republican Party and right wing media working in lock-step would focus all their energy on tearing down that person too. And millions of gullible people would uncritically accept it as truth, very much like you uncritically accepted what an anti-vax conspiracy theorist kook tweeted.
 
Joe Biden is senile.
He demonstrates again and again that he's not. He's old, he's not mentally agile, his short term memory is not great and his situational awareness is reduced. That's not senile. I have a relative going senile and he's nothing like that.

He also doesn't think he's the smartest guy in the room, he runs an administration.

Trump really believes he is a genius.
 
No one has made you “enemy of the thread”. You’ve only been mocked and criticized. That you immediately pivoted to a persecution complex speaks volumes.

The idea that there is some perfect candidate that could handily beat Trump is laughably stupid. It wouldn’t matter who the Democrats nominated. The propaganda machine that is the Republican Party and right wing media working in lock-step would focus all their energy on tearing down that person too. And millions of gullible people would uncritically accept it as truth, very much like you uncritically accepted what an anti-vax conspiracy theorist kook tweeted.

I have no clue who I "tweeted" as I have never sent a tweet nor received one and didnt even think to check the background of the video provider. Hahahahahaha. IT WAS THE SAME VIDEO, WHAT DO I CARE?! :p
I just searched for a link to the video I had seen on YouTube but could not find again to embed (as I had stated).

I just call it like I see it. I do not feel the end result of any perceived persecution. Give evidence to dispute or call names. I dont care. I do like being correct though, regardless if the side I want to win, can actually win or if they have some terribly stupid people they need to be rid of.
Words on this forum are a bit ridiculous when it comes to politics. All a person can do is laugh at some of the die hard "fans" of certain ideologies or politicians here. I do hold out some hope that some balanced views, with sanity and logic return.

I think most will die by then. Then a new generation might make more sense.
 
If Biden was dancing, Trumpers would find something else to freak out about it.

Oh look! Here’s Biden dancing away at some DEI jamboree, probably. I notice he wasn’t dancing on D-Day? Whatsssamatter with you Joe? My twice decorated father fought for your freedom and what do you do with it? You do whatever you damn well, please, don’t you!!!
 
I have no clue who I "tweeted" as I have never sent a tweet nor received one and didnt even think to check the background of the video provider. Hahahahahaha. IT WAS THE SAME VIDEO, WHAT DO I CARE?! :p
I just searched for a link to the video I had seen on YouTube but could not find again to embed (as I had stated).

I just call it like I see it. I do not feel the end result of any perceived persecution. Give evidence to dispute or call names. I dont care. I do like being correct though, regardless if the side I want to win, can actually win or if they have some terribly stupid people they need to be rid of.
Words on this forum are a bit ridiculous when it comes to politics. All a person can do is laugh at some of the die hard "fans" of certain ideologies or politicians here. I do hold out some hope that some balanced views, with sanity and logic return.

I think most will die by then. Then a new generation might make more sense.

well if you like being right then to stop quoting clay travis is a good place to start
 
No one has made you “enemy of the thread”. You’ve only been mocked and criticized. That you immediately pivoted to a persecution complex speaks volumes.

The idea that there is some perfect candidate that could handily beat Trump is laughably stupid. It wouldn’t matter who the Democrats nominated. The propaganda machine that is the Republican Party and right wing media working in lock-step would focus all their energy on tearing down that person too. And millions of gullible people would uncritically accept it as truth, very much like you uncritically accepted what an anti-vax conspiracy theorist kook tweeted.

I’m sorry but the blatant denial in posts like yours really get to me, what do they say “ Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”.

Can I cast your mind back to 2016 when we were being told about Clinton’s terminal illness? How she wouldn’t if voted in even get to her inauguration, the videos showing her ill and unable to even walk and having to be practically carried everywhere, how she was being pumped full of drugs to keep her going. Yet many people - and I have to shamefully say I was one of them - hand waved all those warnings away, denied the evidence of our own eyes and the warnings the republicans were giving us all over their media. Well they had the last laugh didn’t they? Dead and buried before Trump’s inauguration. We should have listened back then to the right wingers’ warnings but we didn’t, shouldn’t we learn from history and this time treat these right wingers’ warnings as serious and evidence based?




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The idea that there is some perfect candidate that could handily beat Trump is laughably stupid. It wouldn’t matter who the Democrats nominated. The propaganda machine that is the Republican Party and right wing media working in lock-step would focus all their energy on tearing down that person too. And millions of gullible people would uncritically accept it as truth, very much like you uncritically accepted what an anti-vax conspiracy theorist kook tweeted.
No one is perfect. But please don't tell me that old grandpa is the best solution the US has against the biggest thread they ever faced.

So, if the REPs would focus all their energy on tearing down that candidate, then surely it would lead to some advantages for bringing someone that is:

- younger
- sharper
- has a lot more energy
- is energetic
- can activate and energize people
- can fully focus on the campaign and doesn't have to deal with being POTUS at the same time
- can punch back (verbally) on Trumps tweets
- etc.

But no, they chose the way that might even lead to the "Ruth Biden Ginsberg" dead end.
 
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