Merged 2024 Election Thread

[Stacyhs]

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton decides that Democrats don't have enough problems and posts the dumbest Tweet in history: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...its-comments-to-hide-from-outrage/ar-BB1nM0Pk

This is what she tweeted:

Eighty years ago today, thousands of brave Americans fought to protect democracy on the shores of Normandy.

This November, all we have to do is vote.

Predictably, the right-wing outrage machine is in full force. But, Hillary Clinton is right. All we have to do to defend democracy is vote for someone who will actually defend our democratic institutions, including the peaceful transfer of leadership by the losing candidate. All we have to do is vote for someone who has not declared he'll stack the government with personal loyalists, pardon convicted criminals because they're political allies, and who would not "seek revenge... except on Day One".

Just last night I was watching part one of a 6 part Netflix series, Hitler and the Nazi: Evil on Trial which dealt with the rise of Hitler. As my husband and I were watching it, we couldn't help but remark on the similarities between Trump and Hitler. Like Trump, we noted how Hitler was able to delude millions of people into putting into power a man who

displayed symptoms of a narcissistic personality disorder. Additionally, a research team at the University of Colorado in 2007 found that Hitler showed traits of paranoia, anti-social, sadistic, and narcissistic personality disorders.

and

Early on, the view was also expressed that Hitler was able to handle his psychopathology skillfully, and was aware of how he could use his symptoms to effectively steer the emotions of his audience.

Perhaps the most famous psychological study of Hitler was done by Henry A. Murray, former director of the Harvard Psychological Clinic, at the behest of the American OSS during the war.

According to Murray, the adult Hitler was a "counteractive type," by which he meant a person primarily motivated by resentment and revenge in response to prior narcissistic wounding and profound feelings of inferiority. Pathological narcissism is in part a compensatory defense against these painful wounds and inferiority feelings. There is no question that Hitler's personality included pathological narcissism or what I have called psychopathic narcissism (see my prior post), and may have met modern diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder.

Trump also displays many, if not all, the symptoms above that Hitler displayed. That Trump supporters cannot see what is right in front of their faces is a testament to the adage "Those who do not learn from the experience of history are doomed to repeat it."

 

[Stacyhs]

Ladbrokes bettors now hold that Donald Trump is 2.4375 times as likely as Joe Biden to be next president.

Be careful what you wish for when judging a man for appropriately paying a blackmail demand.

Trump is a terrible person, but Biden is far worse, some would suggest.

Yes, that "some" being idiots.

 

[The Don]

Google tells me that Gilbert Syndome is a liver complaint, where it's unable to process bilirubin properly. I'm mystified. Can't find any connection to betting.

Gilbert Syndrome is a poster on this board who has said that bookies set their odds based on knowledge of the likely outcome, not simply the bets made.

 

[GlennB]

Gilbert Syndrome is a poster on this board who has said that bookies set their odds based on knowledge of the likely outcome, not simply the bets made.

Ah! Cheers.

 

[The Atheist]

This is what she tweeted:

She equated giving one's life to voting. That's idiotic and wrong.

Nice of you to try to defend her when she clearly realised her own mistake and blocked replies. If she's not prepared to defend it, why are you?

 

[Stacyhs]

She equated giving one's life to voting. That's idiotic and wrong.

Nice of you to try to defend her when she clearly realised her own mistake and blocked replies. If she's not prepared to defend it, why are you?

Nice spin. You really have to twist yourself into a pretzel to infer that. She's saying they had to fight a battle and give their lives to protect democracy but all we have to do is vote. What they had to do was so much greater.

I think it's reasonable to assume she blocked the comments because of nasty comments from people determined to twist her tweet into something it never was. She doesn't have to defend it any more than she has to put up with hateful morons.

 

[sir drinks-a-lot]

She equated giving one's life to voting

No she didn't. She contrasted risking one's life with voting.

 

[angrysoba]

She equated giving one's life to voting. That's idiotic and wrong.
Nice of you to try to defend her when she clearly realised her own mistake and blocked replies. If she's not prepared to defend it, why are you?

She obviously didn't "equate giving one's life to voting". In fact, she did the opposite. She pointed out that people don't need to make such a sacrifice so it isn't that difficult to protect democracy.

And why did she block replies? Because she is unprepared to defend her points?

Hardly! She obviously doesn't feel in the mood to get millions of MAGAChuds descending on her and heaping their misogynistic and vile abuse on her, particularly on Elon Musk's Twatter. For some reason!

I don't believe that you don't know this, so stop parroting the type of idiotic bilge that you'd get from the incel cat turd crypto-bro corner of the web.

 

[Athyrio]

Come one, numbers are fun. Also while they can't really tell (with great certainty) who will win in November, they can tell other things. Like, do people care about the conviction ?

Just wondering. If Trump loses in November and the other trials commence, will it still be called “election interference”?

 

[The Atheist]

She's saying they had to fight a battle and give their lives to protect democracy but all we have to do is vote.

She pointed out that people don't need to make such a sacrifice so it isn't that difficult to protect democracy.

Defending the indefensible is fun.

Why would any sane person use D Day sacrifices as a political metaphor? It's absurd and hasn't gone down well with a lot of people. If I find it awful, I'm sure other people who aren't Trump sycophants will do too.

It's a stupid distraction, but everything about this election is stupid, so it fits.

 

[The Atheist]

Those same bookmakers have Michelle Obama at 20/1.

I think that demonstrates both that bookies set the odds based on bets placed and that punters aren't that smart.

I think it demonstrates that some people think Biden won't last to November and she might be persuaded to run. It also shows the lack of depth in the Democrat camp when their best alternative is a woman who's sworn never to enter politics.

In any sane market, she'd be at 200:1.

Thinking punters aren't smart misses the point that if smart people thought Biden would win, they'd be gobbling up the $2-35 on offer. More than double your money in under 6 months? No other investment will pay that.

And they're not.

 

[Dr.Sid]

Just wondering. If Trump loses in November and the other trials commence, will it still be called “election interference”?

No doubt. Not by Biden though.

 

[Stacyhs]

Defending the indefensible is fun.

Why would any sane person use D Day sacrifices as a political metaphor? It's absurd and hasn't gone down well with a lot of people. If I find it awful, I'm sure other people who aren't Trump sycophants will do too.

It's a stupid distraction, but everything about this election is stupid, so it fits.

Oh, for cripe's sake. The right-wing outrage machine is, as usual, twisting what Clinton said and you've fallen for it. If you're "sure other people who aren't Trump sycophants" see it the way you do, then please, present some. I haven't.

 

[angrysoba]

If I find it awful, I'm sure other people who aren't Trump sycophants will do too.

I'm sure these precious snowflakes can find a fainting couch on which to clutch their pearls and sniff their smelling salts while wearing their big girl's blouses.

It's a stupid distraction, but everything about this election is stupid, so it fits.

Dude, nobody cares about it except you, so what does that tell you about being the only one to be distracted by stupidity and refusing to let it go?

 

[johnny karate]

She equated giving one's life to voting. That's idiotic and wrong.

Nice of you to try to defend her when she clearly realised her own mistake and blocked replies. If she's not prepared to defend it, why are you?

DeBaTe mE HilLaRy

 

[Delvo]

If I find it awful...

The idea that you really actually do is not believable. Your claim about what she said is too obviously a lie. No English-speaker could possibly listen to somebody else highlighting how different two things are in English and really actually honestly think (s)he equated them. That just isn't among the choices to choose from in reality.

Poe was wrong or exaggerating. It is possible to take the act so far that reality could never go there and the fact that it's an act becomes obvious. Take this failure as a learning opportunity; you can fake better!

 

[plague311]

I agree. I'm almost embarrassed for them. It's like watching a comedian who thinks he's funny and is really just bombing big time. Or watching Rudy Giuliani with black shoe polish running down his face. Or Donnie's hair mulit-combover being blown by the wind exposing his bald area or his "tan". They think they're fooling everyone but....no.

As if you summoned it to reality, let me introduce you to Rob Schneider who this week got booed out of a gala because his jokes were trash. The organizers of the event were next level morons for having him do his show there, but Rob was able to take the stupidity to new heights by deciding to do his anti-vax, anti-trans, pro-rightwing cringe on stage at a hospital fundraiser. In an unsurprising twist, he got booed and asked to leave the stage and the hospital had to apologize on his behalf.

I never thought he was a good actor, or funny but this really hits home how terrible he is.

 

[shemp]

As if you summoned it to reality, let me introduce you to Rob Schneider who this week got booed out of a gala because his jokes were trash. The organizers of the event were next level morons for having him do his show there, but Rob was able to take the stupidity to new heights by deciding to do his anti-vax, anti-trans, pro-rightwing cringe on stage at a hospital fundraiser. In an unsurprising twist, he good booed and asked to leave the stage and the hospital had to apologize on his behalf.

I never thought he was a good actor, or funny but this really hits home how terrible he is.

Did nobody look into this guy's background before they hired him? This calls for a "Ren Hoek Idiot Award."

 

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

Nice spin. You really have to twist yourself into a pretzel to infer that. She's saying they had to fight a battle and give their lives to protect democracy but all we have to do is vote. What they had to do was so much greater.

I think it's reasonable to assume she blocked the comments because of nasty comments from people determined to twist her tweet into something it never was. She doesn't have to defend it any more than she has to put up with hateful morons.

Almost without exception when one of these "scandalous" tweets/events happen, the only place I read about it is here.

I guess I need better news sources

 

[The Atheist]

Dude, nobody cares about it except you...

That's good then.

The idea that you really actually do is not believable.

Maybe it's because my father was a twice-decorated WWII participant and some of his morality rubbed off on me.

Anyway, I'm assured nobody but the far right cares, and I wouldn't change my vote over it if I had one, so it's not a problem.

It's amusing how many things aren't a problem to Biden voters.