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General UK politics VII -Return of the Starmer

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I had an election communication from my Tory MP this afternoon. It's entirely about local issues and the word "Conservative(s)" appears only twice in four shiny A4 pages - once in the sentence "Labour always claim that the Conservatives don't care about the health service", and once in the tiny print at the end disclosing who produced the leaflet.

No Tory branding whatsoever anywhere in the communication; if I did not know he was a Tory I would not be able to discern that without very careful reading. Even their own MPs appear to be deserting the party like rats leaving sinking ships.

And apparently they didn't bother with proofreading; he "wants to boats stopped".
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Rishi must be so frustrated, he's ****** up to a laughable level and made an absolute twat of himself.
He must be asking why it's not working? The idiot public lapped it up when Boris did it.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Rishi must be so frustrated, he's ****** up to a laughable level and made an absolute twat of himself.
He must be asking why it's not working? The idiot public lapped it up when Boris did it.
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Not quite. Johnson was kept away from all media.
 
Latest voting figures show Rees-Mogg losing North East Somerset and Hanham

Labour 44.56% (+10.5)

Con 21.81% (-21.36)

Reform 15.35% (+10.63)

Lib Dem 11.29% (-2.34)

Green 7% (+2.99)

Other <1% (-0.46)
 
Strange that he can cancel a days interviews just like that, but didn't on D-Day because?
 
Vixen said:
Whilst the great British public have a healthy scepticism of its government and ministers, one thing it does respect and honour are those who fought and gave their lives in the war. That PM Rishi Sunak does not feel similar sentiment will be very striking to people as to his true character. Of course, he is not a bad person by any means but he just doesn't 'get it'. The appearance of shiny-faced Cameron standing in as 'acting head of government' in place of Sunak and the understandably ill KCIII having to take it easy was an unpleasant surprise and one wonders whether he is the puppet master pulling Sunak's strings. Sunak the front man would explain a lot about his lack of sincerity and absence of integrity (simply saying things stuffed into his mouth by ERG think tankers).

Ah well, at least he made an extra £120m last year as a consolation prize.
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Weren't you describing the UK public as clueless idiots who'd swallow anything the were fed and Sunak as a corrupt greedy politician covering up EV fires recently?
 
catsmate said:
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Weren't you describing the UK public as clueless idiots who'd swallow anything the were fed and Sunak as a corrupt greedy politician covering up EV fires recently?
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Citation, please, where I said the UK public were 'clueless idiots'.

It is my view and that of people such as Jo Maugham of the Good Law Project, European Powell (an expert on the issue of Free Ports) et al that Sunak and his wife do indeed profit hugely from his various projects and 'policies'. The Good Law Project has succeeded in demanding disclosure in such issues. For example, the VIP Lane: https://goodlawproject.org/campaign/vip-files-2/

Farage is directly responsible for feeding the UK public a pack of lies about Brexit. As is Boris Johnson.

Explain how they got away with it.
 
GB News have their big guns out today.

Christopher Biggins is on the politics panel, he says at the BBC election debate Nigel Farage simply 'looks at the camera and says what he means'.

"Nigel Farage is the most charismatic out of all the politicians we have. Give him five years and he will be ruling the Conservatives.'
 
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I cannot see the phrase 'clueless idiots'.

Professional and academic sociologists have long recognised that the UK is a class-ridden society. The fact people hotly dispute this empirically-researched and well-established phenomenon shows how well the system works.

"You think you're so clever and classless and free' ~ John Lennon

But there has always been an element of society that sees through the idea of the wealthy being the 'natural born leaders', hence the nineteenth century pamphleteers* and various movements satirising the government. The healthy opposition is more likely to come from the middle classes thanks to better education but that's not to say the working classes are not fully aware of the propaganda fed to them, such as pipe-smoking Harold Wilson's 'You've never had it so good'. Every so often the public rises up in a backlash against the establishment, as when it voted Rage Against the Machine for Christmas No. 1 instead of the usual X-Factor winner, or when it selected 'Boaty McBoatface' in the #NameOurShip online poll to name the £200 million polar scientific research ship. I believe that a portion of the British public voted 'Leave' in Brexit, just to rebel against David Cameron and his assured self-confidence the public would do his bidding. That is what I meant about the great British public having a 'healthy scepticism' about politicians.

You only have to look at X-twitter to see the numerous D-Day memes mocking Sunak's early disappearance from the event to see this. For example, here: https://x.com/colinrtalbot/status/1799464890253418981

But that doesn't mean that Brits cannot also be forelock-tugging and cap doffing when it comes to the Royal Family and Etonians such as Boris Johnson and co.

*I can recommend the excellent late Helen Dunmore's Birdcage Walk which is an historical novel set in Bristol on this topic.
 
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Andy_Ross said:
GB News have their big guns out today.

Christopher Biggins is on the politics panel, he says at the BBC election debate Nigel Farage simply 'looks at the camera and says what he means'.

"Nigel Farage is the most charismatic out of all the politicians we have. Give him five years and he will be ruling the Conservatives.'
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Bugger Farage! In five years, I could be ruling the Conservatives! They will be so small that they able to hold their national convention in someone's garage. I'm not even a Brit national and have barely spent more than a couple of days there total. And yet I have a tenuous enough connection to the UK that I could conceivably become a UK citizen and be able to vote, and thus lead a party. And I'm sure that I, or indeed a small brown mongrel dog, could be a better and more honest Conservative leader than Toad-face Farage. I could take him in a walk with one hand tied behind my back.

I also think it would be hilarious that every day he is on the hustings, someone throws a glass of something over him. Or pours it from above. Or pelts him with rotten fruit. I gather this used to be common sport in the old days of politics! Let's get back to that, eh, Nige? ;)
 
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