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General UK politics VII -Return of the Starmer

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Nigel says Reform are gaining a new member every 4 seconds since his announcement.


Where is Tice hiding?
 
What do you think about their party political broadcast?

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Ninjaed! Fly the flag for Sunak, but don't check it.
 
Al Murray is disappointed with the timing of the election, he's on your at the moment so can't stand against Farage again.

He says "If FUKP were running in this election we would be called Deform. Our central pledge would be to re-join the EU so we could leave again, on the grounds that nothing has felt that good since."
 
Is it time for me to trot out my personal favourite of Sunak describing Darlington as being in Scotland?

He has a record of not doing the geography thing. Mebbe someone needs to get those education inspector bods to visit Winchester?


When he was offered Richmond...

He's probably still wondering why the helicopter takes so long to get there.
 
Farage has a meltdown on BBC News and then refused to go on Newsnight

Ben Thompson, "Call it a pressure group, call it a party, you were a candidate to be an MP on a ballot paper"

Nigel Farage, "How many times have you stood?"

BT, "I'm just asking"

NF, "What do you know about it"

BT, "I'm asking you the question:

NF, "There you go"

BT, "People will say you tried it before"

NF, "Ask something intelligent and we'll carry on with the conversation shall we"

BT, "I'm interested in why people should trust you when 7 times previously you didn't manage to become an MP"

NF, "Pass... Pass.. No no no no no.. I think you're very very boring.. And I think your viewers will find you very boring.. And you ought to do rather better as the state broadcaster

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He said he was happy to stick his head above the parapet and be shot at. Now we'll see how honest that was.
 
Farage said in a Times interview in February

"Do I want to be an MP? Do l want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?"

Nigel He’s not genuinely wanting to be an MP. He’s not interested in the workload or the constituents of Clacton. He just wants the exposure and the platform being an MP would give him in order to continue to cause problems and project his divisive poison for as long as possible. A fraud
 
Farage said in a Times interview in February

"Do I want to be an MP? Do l want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?"

Nigel He’s not genuinely wanting to be an MP. He’s not interested in the workload or the constituents of Clacton. He just wants the exposure and the platform being an MP would give him in order to continue to cause problems and project his divisive poison for as long as possible. A fraud

If all the other parties don't put that line on their election material they really are missing a trick.
 
How long until Farage offers to stand Reform down again?

And what will the price tag be?

We all know how this grift works.
 
How long until Farage offers to stand Reform down again?

And what will the price tag be?

We all know how this grift works.


I think he is setting his sights higher. Tories are on target to get thumped in this election. He can't change that, but 'joining' with the Tory opposition this time shows 'his power' and gives him 5 years to reconcile, dissolve Reform and take over as Tory Führer.
 
Anyone willing to put down their prediction?

I expect that Labour will have a majority of around 60 to 70, Tories second, SNP third, LibDem 4th, others 2.
 
I think he is setting his sights higher. Tories are on target to get thumped in this election. He can't change that, but 'joining' with the Tory opposition this time shows 'his power' and gives him 5 years to reconcile, dissolve Reform and take over as Tory Führer.

This^ I don't think he'd have stood himself if he was planning to withdraw. He's a wrecker, no more, no less.
 
I think he is setting his sights higher. Tories are on target to get thumped in this election. He can't change that, but 'joining' with the Tory opposition this time shows 'his power' and gives him 5 years to reconcile, dissolve Reform and take over as Tory Führer.

Yup my thinking too

I'm wondering if he thinks he can win Clacton (not impossible certainly) and completely trash the Tories this time round, making the rump think they have to accommodate Farage. He immediately crossses the floor and becomes a Tory MP able to stand for the leadership after Sunak resigns.
 
I can't help thinking that Farage's timing, within days of Trump being found guilty, is significant.

Meanwhile the Torys announce a cap on immigration, without putting an actual number on it. Could this be an example of the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy?
 
Anyone willing to put down their prediction?

I expect that Labour will have a majority of around 60 to 70, Tories second, SNP third, LibDem 4th, others 2.
I expect Labour with a 100 seat majority (so in the 420-430'ish seats range), Tories neck and neck with LibDems (50'ish seats each), the SNP to halve in size in Westminster, and the rest of the parties to share the spoils.

The joker in the deck is really going to be if Reform Ltd. will siphon enough votes that the LibDems pick up seats in otherwise true blue areas.
 
I would hope Farage turns back into a toad and gets run over by a lawnmower.

Oi! Toads are fine up-standing (well, crawling and swimming) amphibians, with certain species (rightly) protected.

Whereas Farage is an odious, self-centred, self-serving, grifting, lying twunt of no obvious merit nor use.

Gimme a natterjack any day.

ETA We sometimes have toads in our garden, which is fine by me. However, if I found Farage in my garden...Well, let's just say I know plenty of places I could lose a body, without much fear of it being found...
 
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I expect Labour with a 100 seat majority (so in the 420-430'ish seats range), Tories neck and neck with LibDems (50'ish seats each), the SNP to halve in size in Westminster, and the rest of the parties to share the spoils.

The joker in the deck is really going to be if Reform Ltd. will siphon enough votes that the LibDems pick up seats in otherwise true blue areas.

:confused: 420 seats out of a total of 650 means 420 vs. 230, or a 190 majority, no? ~420 is the bookies' prediction for Labour, and I'm hoping they're right.

Overall majority of 150 for Labour is my (slightly pessimistic) prediction.
 
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