Aridas
Crazy Little Green Dragon
That's disappointing. I was hoping for something more substantial.
*shrug*
I wouldn't call that 'rather serious problems'.
This part would be closer to what was actually referred to -
Two of the users the platform suspended Tuesday told NBC News that they are skeptical of Musk’s explanation that their now-reversed bans were most likely accidents.
“That strikes me as highly implausible, if not impossible,” said Steven Monacelli, a journalist and correspondent for the Texas Observer whose account was among the at least eight that were removed. “If it is possible, it is a reflection of how terrible the state of engineering has become on this platform.”
*shrug*
Here's a serious problem that Twitter had before Musk bought it:-
You're straying a bit here. If you want to stray like that, though, perhaps you'd be interested in addressing the larger, more relevant arguments that I pointed out when I said that Twitter served better as a free speech platform before Musk. Note that I'm not even close to claiming that Twitter before Musk was perfect.
I can see how something like that might run afoul of suspension algorithms.
You're assuming that it was algorithms. That was done as a permaban, though, and well -
“Musk went on for months about how there should never be permanent suspension,” wrote Mike Masnick, the founder of tech news site TechDirt, in response to the bans. “And here we are one week in and he’s perma-banning people for making jokes at his expense.”
Going a bit further, well...
And while comedy accounts impersonating Musk were quickly suspended on Monday, at least one malicious impersonation seeking to scam users out of their money was flying below the radar. The verified account of Joe Memmel, a musician with more than 6,000 followers, changed its username to “Tesla Live” and announced (falsely) that Musk was running a “charity raffle” of more than $100 million, inviting users to click on a dangerous link to “get their winnings right now.”
I'm not inclined to just assume that Musk wasn't involved when Musk has a track record of getting involved when he feels like it and, well, his personality and history.
A leaked internal message appears to show Elon Musk ordered Twitter staff to suspend a left-wing activist's account
Moving on, though.
Twitter was banning people for dubious reasons long before Musk took over.
Duh? Was there anyone who tried to argue otherwise?
Here's a small selection of notable members who were banned in 2021.
The large proportion of high profile political conservatives who were banned, many of them permanently, is concerning, as are the numerous accounts that were banned for no apparent reason.
Mmm. Except that a bunch of the bannings of right-wingers weren't dubious at all. Seriously, you started out that list with Trump and you're trying to pretend that he wasn't banned for extremely good cause and that we should be deeply concerned about that? The bigger problem there was that Twitter had long been neglecting to follow their rules when it came to him because they profited notably from that neglect, rather than it being a problem when he was finally banned for breaking the rules in a rather extreme manner.
With that said, with Musk, instead of that, we got -
Left-Wing Voices Are Silenced on Twitter as Far-Right Trolls Advise Elon Musk
Elon Musk appears to have outsourced decisions about who to ban from Twitter to the platform's right-wing extremists.
If you want to make things about bans more broadly, of course, that can be done. Going more broad in that just makes it ever more clear that Musk's "Free Speech Absolutism" isn't anything close, though. If you want to bring politics into it, there's a lot more reason to believe that Musk is pointedly worse.
But everyone has forgotten about them
Your claim here is not rooted in either fact or reason.
as we rush to accuse Musk of personally banning accounts that 'mocked' him. Perhaps he did - though we have no actual evidence for this accusation. But perhaps - at least in some cases - there were legitimate reasons for those accounts being suspended (eg. faking another person's account). But we will ignore that possibility because it doesn't fit our narrative.
*shrug* And if all you've got is that knee jerk defense, you don't actually have all that much of a defense. Musk's quite undermined his personal credibility over and over and over. For that matter, even if there were other potential reasons for disciplinary action, there's been very real issues with enforcement. Hence part of why we've ended up with verified pro-Nazi X accounts flourishing under Elon Musk.
X’s policies ban glorifying violence — a broad prohibition that X has sometimes used to take down pro-Nazi content and accounts. The rules also ban “praising violent entities” and say the platform will apply labels to hate imagery like swastikas. But NBC News found that X does not appear to be enforcing those policies consistently.
The findings are the latest evidence of a flourishing Nazi network on X under Musk’s ownership. Previous investigations by news organizations and anti-hate watchdogs have documented many examples of antisemitism, white supremacy and support for Nazism on X.
You may as well try to make the case that the inconsistent enforcement and increased Nazi problem that X has is pro-Free Speech, if you keep trying to argue in the vein that you are.
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