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Transwomen are not Women - Part 14

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Paul2 said:
A championship with limited competition, of the sort we're talking about, is just as legit as championships with divisions, weight classes, age restrictions, etc. unless you define a championship to be the best regardless of any division, age, etc. Why wouldn't it be, beyond defining it to not be?
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It is a legit championship. If you win in the Senior Men's 50-to-Pushing-Daisies Group with Arthritis and Erectile Dysfunction World Champion Boxing Match, you won that. Pretty sure you're not the World Champion Boxer though if you need all those qualifiers.

Eta: the Champ is the one that no one can beat. You can still have matches for the competitors with migraines or whatever restrictions you want. At a certain level though, there can be only one, to paraphrase the Highlander. Just one, with no soft pedaling lighter competition.
 
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Thermal said:
Solution: open contests. Whoever wins, wins. Highest ranking in their respective subdivisions of choice can point out they were the highest placing woman/ juvenile / senior citizen/ woman with penis/ guy with mild psoriasis and everyone is happy?
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You must be incandescent with rage while the paralympics and special olympics are happening.

How DARE those people have sporting competitions!

And yes, there are people so abhorrent, that they pretend to have disabilities so that they can 'win' those competitions.

Those people, and their supporters, disgust me.
 
novaphile said:
You must be incandescent with rage while the paralympics and special olympics are happening.

How DARE those people have sporting competitions!

And yes, there are people so abhorrent, that they pretend to have disabilities so that they can 'win' those competitions.

Those people, and their supporters, disgust me.
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As I've said, repeatedly now, I'm a big fan of the sub genres. But at the elite level, there can be only One who is the Top Dog without "Oh except for those big scary guys"
 
d4m10n said:
And...? Presumably this caused some harm or else you would not have mentioned it alongside sterilizing children.
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Thank you for this sarcastic response to a mental health crisis amongst the young and confused.
It is not my country, but it is rife in my country, and I see wrecked families around me.
 
Thermal said:
It is a legit championship. If you win in the Senior Men's 50-to-Pushing-Daisies Group with Arthritis and Erectile Dysfunction World Champion Boxing Match, you won that. Pretty sure you're not the World Champion Boxer though if you need all those qualifiers.

Eta: the Champ is the one that no one can beat. You can still have matches for the competitors with migraines or whatever restrictions you want. At a certain level though, there can be only one, to paraphrase the Highlander. Just one, with no soft pedaling lighter competition.
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That is the narrowest definition of champion you could choose. It is a legitimate definition, but it's not the only one. In fact, the first one at American Heritage Dictionary is, "One that wins first place or first prize in a competition." If you mean literally "the one that no one [in the world] can beat," you're using another definition of "champion."

Paul2's first law: any disagreement devolves into a disagreement about definitions. As evidence for my law, I give you this entire thread.

ETA: That you can hypothesize some hyper-restrictive competition categories does nothing to de-legitimize many or all of the current restrictive categories based on age, sex, weight class, etc.
 
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p0lka said:
Transwomen are male. Whether they are 'men' or 'women' is one of the points of this thread.
It's confusing when biology and gender are used interchangeably.
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Decoupled from biology, the question of whether they're women is functionally meaningless.

Hell, the question is even legally meaningless.
 
d4m10n said:
Young and confused Americans are looking to Biden for how to perform gender?

:USA:
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d4m10n said:
Oh yeah the kids are all on their TikTok watching HHS videos.
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Your casual disregard for the fate of children is noted.
This clip shows the authenticity of this influencer, Richard Levine. Don't bother watching, it is all too damning of the Biden administration. Rand Paul is no doubt beyond the pale in polite society like this forum, but at least he is referring to embedded depravity.

https://youtu.be/NjJfC2HaaFg?si=W-_J4yi3BeK0EyrO
 
d4m10n said:
Your inability to link either Dylan Mulvaney or Rachel Levine to the fate of children is noted. It sounds to me like you're upset that adults are making choices with their own bodies and you're running a classic Helen Lovejoy gambit.
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Mulvaney and Levine are both working to normalize an anti-science, anti-social agenda that measurably harms children, women, and people who actually suffer from gender dysphoria.

HTH. HAND!
 
d4m10n said:
Why provide evidence when you can just assert confidently?
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The evidence of the TRA agenda and its pernicious effects on society has been provided in abundance over the course of this thread. At this point it's up to you to provide evidence that Mulvaney, Levine, and their ilk are not contributing to that agenda.
 
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Why provide evidence when you can just assert confidently?
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I dunno. Richard has pushed the Biden administration to support blockers and such for children. Yet he said he was glad he waited to transition because he loves his own children. His advocacy seems both harmful and hypocritical.
 
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