a_unique_person
Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning
That's a good way of putting it.
Split Thread Musk, SpaceX and future of Tesla
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Trausti
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That's silly. Without Musk, those businesses would be diminished if nonexistant. Musk made those things happen by the force of his personality; even if other brains were necessary. I see it like Jobs and Wozniak. Wozniak was clearly the engineering genuis at early Apple. But without Jobs's personality and enthusiasm, it would have gone nowhere. The hate on Musk is simply loser evny.
The Great Zaganza
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Ah, the basic BS that is the excuse of the.01% why they shouldn't pay taxes.
The **** No!
When will people stop believing in the fairy tale of the One Individual who can make the impossible happen?
Musk was LUCKY, from birth, and then again multiple times, to be both o good ********ter and sociopath, both qualities highly prized by investors.
Obama was 100% right when he said "you didn't build that".
Your savior complex is showing.
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a_unique_person
Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning
You have no proof any other provider of finance couldn't have produced a good outcome. Musk had that spark of life entrepreneurs are supposed to bring but he blew that. Now he is just an object of derision.
The thing I don't get is the adoration like he is a god. Cultism is tacky.
Fast Eddie B
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plague311
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Part time at best. There's no way he's having an impact at all of these businesses in any meaningful way. There are only so many hours in a day and he spends most of his belching conspiracy theories about Jews and other dumb **** for most of his day.
Maybe Musk was pivotal at some point with regards to these companies, but none of them require his leadership anymore. You can tell because he isn't leading any of them in a meaningful way other than X.
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My suspicion is that without massive government or other investment in the new Tesla factory Elon blithers of it will never happen.
The reason for years of delay in the semi project can only be that he can't find a silent investor for building it as he slaps his name and Golden Vision on it.
Maybe a few glittery stage shows he could dazzle the investors a few times.
But it all boils down to him managing other people's money to his glory.
The reason for years of delay in the semi project can only be that he can't find a silent investor for building it as he slaps his name and Golden Vision on it.
Maybe a few glittery stage shows he could dazzle the investors a few times.
But it all boils down to him managing other people's money to his glory.
My suspicion is that without massive government or other investment in the new Tesla factory Elon blithers of it will never happen.
The reason for years of delay in the semi project can only be that he can't find a silent investor for building it as he slaps his name and Golden Vision on it.
Maybe a few glittery stage shows he could dazzle the investors a few times.
But it all boils down to him managing other people's money to his glory.
The reason for years of delay in the semi project can only be that he can't find a silent investor for building it as he slaps his name and Golden Vision on it.
Maybe a few glittery stage shows he could dazzle the investors a few times.
But it all boils down to him managing other people's money to his glory.
A guy on my message board is a Cruise employee.
As far as excoriation, Cruise lost its license to operate in California after one of their cars drove over someone after someone else's accident threw a person in front of the Cruise car.
Aridas
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That is mildly amusing. The panels should probably be reversed, though.
With that said, it's also the usual compete BS Republican take.
To state the quote more honestly -
True and entirely reasonable in pretty much every way that matters. If one was seeking to actually argue against it, of course, one could invoke that some of the taxes that funded such were paid by businesses and that a small fraction of businesses did build such when paid to do so. Technicalities that are largely irrelevant to the point being communicated, in short.
Fast Eddie B
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This morning’s “The Daily” pod act is titled: “How Tesla Planted the Seeds for its Own Potential Downfall”. Yikes! Haven’t listened to it yet, but doesn’t sound promising from its title.
I’m still a shareholder, and still up about 41% on my position. Not selling any time soon, but at first slowed down on further purchases and now have put that pretty much on hold. But still hoping for the next.
I’m still a shareholder, and still up about 41% on my position. Not selling any time soon, but at first slowed down on further purchases and now have put that pretty much on hold. But still hoping for the next.
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
What BS.
dudalb
Penultimate Amazing
I suspect a problem with Tesla is it is not handling going from being so dominent in the EV market that is had a near monopoly on EV's to a very competitive market very well.That happens a lot.
dirtywick
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https://www.motortrend.com/features/tesla-trouble-problems-2024/
good article about the challenges tesla faces, biggest being its product lineup is 10 years old besides the disastrous cyber truck, and they seem to have ditched the affordable model in pursuit of a robotaxi
good article about the challenges tesla faces, biggest being its product lineup is 10 years old besides the disastrous cyber truck, and they seem to have ditched the affordable model in pursuit of a robotaxi
Wait a sec, dudb
You don't understand what Trausi & me understand about
FÜHRERPRINZIP!
That means Leader Principle, and it's how things work when they're working right: The Big Guy's word comes first (Mussolini a sempre raggione!) no matter what, and there's no second & no third!
See, if everybody works only to serve The Leader's will, then whatever happens is right and good on account of it's HIS! Us followers don't count. That's why we got nothin' to worry about. You gotta admit, that's a pretty neat system.
You don't understand what Trausi & me understand about
FÜHRERPRINZIP!
That means Leader Principle, and it's how things work when they're working right: The Big Guy's word comes first (Mussolini a sempre raggione!) no matter what, and there's no second & no third!
See, if everybody works only to serve The Leader's will, then whatever happens is right and good on account of it's HIS! Us followers don't count. That's why we got nothin' to worry about. You gotta admit, that's a pretty neat system.
Tesla has done things like invest in the production of batteries and opening up their charging network. These are things that will help them as the competition for EVs grows.
The relative low quality of the Chinese models (on the average) and the anticipated crash of the market in them there will help Tesla in the coming years. They have a product that passes US safety standards. As far as support goes Tesla has some issues getting spare parts out in a timely manner and definitely not cheap, but better than trying to get parts for a WangHo car that the company ceased to exist a year ago, in China.
Battery technology is where it's at right now. A less expensive and longer lifespan battery will be the first good step. Even if it weighs more.
Maybe Tesla could lead in that market.
Battery technology is where it's at right now. A less expensive and longer lifespan battery will be the first good step. Even if it weighs more.
Maybe Tesla could lead in that market.
Gulliver Foyle
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To be more accurate, he couldn't care if the world was engulfed in flames of his own making, but would expect everybody else to praise him fir saving it anyway.
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I'm not sure that's true. There are fewer disposed of parts and the turnaround time seems to be a lot, lot less than the shuttle. Am I missing something?
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