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If you look at early photos of British infantry from the second half of the 19th century, large bushy beards were quite common after the Crimean War. They disappeared again in the 1890s when official regulations were written regarding facial hair.

Kings Regulations from the 1890s "The chin and under-lip will be shaved, but not the upper lip. Whiskers, if worn, will be of moderate length"

In WW1 the regulations were relaxed because of the huge intake of new infantry.

During the first part of the 19th century the British infantry was normally clean-shaven, and moustaches were dismissed with the ultimate insult: they were too French. Cavalrymen, however, often adopted moustaches: this required the colonel of their regiment to write to the War Office for permission.

Napoleon’s Hussars wore moustaches in tribute to their Hungarian models, and the British cavalry then followed suit. The infantry, however, rejected them.

However, British soldiers were spending increasing amounts of time in India, where a moustache was seen as a sign of masculine virility and status — and the lack of them opened the British troops to mockery. There were cases of individual regiments instructing their soldiers to grow moustaches, and in 1854 the Army of the Bombay Presidency of the East India Company made moustaches compulsory.

In the Crimean War, Queen's Regulations were relaxed to allow soldiers to grow both beards and moustaches, to protect their faces from the bitter cold of the Russian winter.
After the war bears and moustaches became popular with the civilian population as it reflected the tough image of the war veterans, when they went out of fashion again the army changed regulations to get rid of beards.
 
Gammons on Twitter bursting blood vessels because the army is allowing soldiers to grow beards
Apparently the army has gone 'woke'.
All the gays and weirdos will join and it's surrendered to Islamic extremists who will now flock to join and get military training to overthrow our civilization.
Does the RN still allow beards?

And as for gays and weirdos I though they constituted the most effective part of the British Army?
 
If you look at early photos of British infantry from the second half of the 19th century, large bushy beards were quite common after the Crimean War. They disappeared again in the 1890s when official regulations were written regarding facial hair.

Kings Regulations from the 1890s "The chin and under-lip will be shaved, but not the upper lip. Whiskers, if worn, will be of moderate length"

In WW1 the regulations were relaxed because of the huge intake of new infantry.

During the first part of the 19th century the British infantry was normally clean-shaven, and moustaches were dismissed with the ultimate insult: they were too French. Cavalrymen, however, often adopted moustaches: this required the colonel of their regiment to write to the War Office for permission.

Napoleon’s Hussars wore moustaches in tribute to their Hungarian models, and the British cavalry then followed suit. The infantry, however, rejected them.

However, British soldiers were spending increasing amounts of time in India, where a moustache was seen as a sign of masculine virility and status — and the lack of them opened the British troops to mockery. There were cases of individual regiments instructing their soldiers to grow moustaches, and in 1854 the Army of the Bombay Presidency of the East India Company made moustaches compulsory.

In the Crimean War, Queen's Regulations were relaxed to allow soldiers to grow both beards and moustaches, to protect their faces from the bitter cold of the Russian winter.
After the war bears and moustaches became popular with the civilian population as it reflected the tough image of the war veterans, when they went out of fashion again the army changed regulations to get rid of beards.
Thank you for that! It's the sort of fascinating historical trivia I collect.
 
True, that's always a possibility.
Though with Fox so is booze.


Anyway Count Binface is running!!! Cheap croissants and the return of CEEFAX!

Binface had no problems with the forms, he let everyone know on Twitter.
 
Does the RN still allow beards?

And as for gays and weirdos I though they constituted the most effective part of the British Army?

Yes the Navy allows beards. You ask the for 'permission to grow'. After 2 weeks your effort is inspected and you can either carry on, or if it's not impressive enough you get told to shave it off.
No mustaches on their own though.
 
Yes the Navy allows beards. You ask the for 'permission to grow'. After 2 weeks your effort is inspected and you can either carry on, or if it's not impressive enough you get told to shave it off.
No mustaches on their own though.
I remember that from Foyle.
 
Yeah, the whole spectrum. It's interesting how few people I've spoken to are surprised.


I take it the forum management don't want the details of the victims mentioned?

As admin: Best not to, stick to what's reported in the proper media - BBC, Guardian, The Sun, GB News....
 
The Donaldson case seems the perfect illustration of this, and its not a historical problem unfortunately, there are still plenty of people, though lets be honest mostly men, using positions of power and influence to get away with sexual abuse.
Absolutely. And there is more coming on that particular case.

As admin: Best not to, stick to what's reported in the proper media - BBC, Guardian, The Sun, GB News....
:eek::boggled::eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:boxedin::covereyes
Have you been at the Good Friday cheer?

Right, no details until they're public.
 
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Absolutely. And there is more coming on that particular case.

:eek::boggled::eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:boxedin::covereyes
Have you been at the Good Friday cheer?

Right, no details until they're public.

Well in terms of accuracy GBeebies is probably better than the Mail albeit not quite as trustworth as Viz or The Beano.
 
Well in terms of accuracy GBeebies is probably better than the Mail albeit not quite as trustworth as Viz or The Beano.
Perhaps a little better.


I see, with no surprise but a little unexpected disgust, that Allister is already using the case to attempt to make political capital
"This needs to be a cathartic moment for unionism. Unionism must steady itself and cut adrift the Donaldson folly of accepting an Irish Sea border and rule by EU law".
 
This could mean the end of unionism as a singular force.
That's been on the cards for years. The moderates are decamping to Alliance, the unionist centre to the UUP or PUP, depending on degree of social/fiscal liberalism and the Paisleyites to the TUV.
 
Viz's coverage of Friday night in Bigg Market is absolutely accurate.

As a former resident of Newcastle, married to a Geordie who is the daughter of the bloke who taught a couple of the Viz lads to draw, had a mate who appeared in at least one Photo Love, and was a habituee of The World Famous Trent House, The Egypt Cottage and other hostelries mentioned in Viz, I will repeat my assertion the Viz is a journal (not The Journal, which is pish) of record, especially of things Tyneside.
 
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