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Well the Tory MP continues to be overturned one seat at a time. I assume the decision to resign means that he expects the recall petition to succeed and of course he had zero chance of winning even if he could have ridden out the petition.
 
Mojo said:
No it doesn't, it states that "discussion or criticism relating to, or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule or insult towards" religions are allowed.
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That may be so.
But ratcheting up laws against speech will not encourage people to discuss Islam. Islamophobia is a rational mindset when considering Salman Rushdie, Afghanistan, the dead girl in Iran, apostasy, and the world networks helping women leave the cult of Islam, to their great peril.
It is the chilling effect. New Zealand has ceased all work on hate speech laws, a country similar to Scotland in population. Scotland should abandon this nonsense though I see left wing authors like Chris Brookmyre are so rabid against the Tories they are defending the law.
 
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Samson said:
That may be so.
But ratcheting up laws against speech will not encourage people to discuss Islam. Islamophobia is a rational mindset when considering Salman Rushdie, Afghanistan, the dead girl in Iran, apostasy, and the world networks helping women leave the cult of Islam, to their great peril.
It is the chilling effect. New Zealand has ceased all work on hate speech laws, a country similar to Scotland in population. Scotland should abandon this nonsense though I see left wing authors like Chris Brookmyre are so rabid against the Tories they are defending the law.
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Suggestion: when people explain that the law isn't what you claim it is, why not explain why you think you are correct?
Or you could just whimper in a corner like a child complaining the chicken nuggets are the wrong shape.
 
Samson said:
That may be so.
But ratcheting up laws against speech will not encourage people to discuss Islam. Islamophobia is a rational mindset when considering Salman Rushdie, Afghanistan, the dead girl in Iran, apostasy, and the world networks helping women leave the cult of Islam, to their great peril.
It is the chilling effect. New Zealand has ceased all work on hate speech laws, a country similar to Scotland in population. Scotland should abandon this nonsense though I see left wing authors like Chris Brookmyre are so rabid against the Tories they are defending the law.
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Word salad.
 
Wudang said:
Suggestion: when people explain that the law isn't what you claim it is, why not explain why you think you are correct?
Or you could just whimper in a corner like a child complaining the chicken nuggets are the wrong shape.
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I was expressing some comfort in living where these laws do not exist, where there is no need to deconstruct them.
I bet I am not the only person fooled into thinking it unwise to criticise the cult of the child of Pakistani Immigrants who has designed these hate speech laws and railroaded them in.
 
Samson said:
I was expressing some comfort in living where these laws do not exist, where there is no need to deconstruct them.
I bet I am not the only person fooled into thinking it unwise to criticise the cult of the child of Pakistani Immigrants who has designed these hate speech laws and railroaded them in.
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You're not the only racist to jump to false conclusions I'm sure.
 
jimbob said:
I can't find a non twitter version of this Tory party video

https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1772321715713982730

It looks like something Chris Morris would have rejected as being too OTT.
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Tories delete Sadiq Khan attack ad showing New York instead of London

After commentators such as the political journalist Paul Waugh spotted that the video about London showed scenes from New York, it was withdrawn and replaced with a video where the Penn station clips had been cut.

Originally, the scenes from Penn station had been shown in black and white, and overlaid with an ominous US-accented narrator saying: “A 54% increase in knife crime since the Labour mayor seized power has the metropolis teetering on the brink of chaos.

“And in the chaos, people seek a desperate reprieve.”
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Samson said:
That may be so.
But ratcheting up laws against speech will not encourage people to discuss Islam. Islamophobia is a rational mindset when considering Salman Rushdie, Afghanistan, the dead girl in Iran, apostasy, and the world networks helping women leave the cult of Islam, to their great peril.
It is the chilling effect. New Zealand has ceased all work on hate speech laws, a country similar to Scotland in population. Scotland should abandon this nonsense though I see left wing authors like Chris Brookmyre are so rabid against the Tories they are defending the law.
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A word salad made of straw. :rolleyes:
 
Two ministers have quit.

Robert Halfon announced he was resigning as an education minister, while James Heappey followed through on a previous promise to step down as armed forces minister.

Both are standing down at the next general election.

Gullis has been made deputy chair.
I thought that was a joke at first.
 
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