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Cont: General UK Politics V Suella Strikes Back

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Wudang said:
£100k per annum is well into the top 5%.
"Before deducting housing costs, £ per year, 2022. Household income at the 95th percentile is £81,357"

Source : https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/mar/24/despite-what-jeremy-hunt-thinks-high-income-salary
"Even in the relatively affluent Godalming and Ash constituency Hunt is contesting, where a chat with an unhappy voter prompted him to muse about the challenges of six-figure salaries, estimates by the consultancy Electoral Calculus put the median at little more than half that: £56,606."
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Didn't Hunt say he wasn't standing at the next GE?
 
jimbob said:
Are you really suggesting that my Labour candidate, if elected, would be more damaging to the cause of labour than my current Tory MP?

Because that's the choice I have. And indeed, due to a lack of tactical voting, is probably why I currently have a Tory MP.
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No, but given current Labour policy they'll be no different.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
No, but given current Labour policy they'll be no different.
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That's a silly analysis, worthy of Rick from the Yong Ones

I do think that Starmer is a bit overcautious. But that's because the stakes are so high and a Labour leader is vulnerable to the right wing press and smear campaigns. He knows that he's not going to be able to set the agenda or get much done in opposition.
 
I do not get this tweet from Tory Mark Jenkinson MP

https://twitter.com/markjenkinsonmp/status/1772167177505739114

"Choosing to represent terrorists in a foreign country, for free and outwith any ‘cab rank rule’ rule, would show serious moral deficiency.
That goes without saying to the vast majority of people."

I presume it is an attack on Starmer, but can any UK lawyer represent someone abroad, in a different legal system? UK lawyers cannot appear in courts throughout the UK, let alone abroad.

The can rank rule prevents criminal court lawyers refusing to represent clients. Where does the free come from? I know some lawyers will do pro-bono work, but not normally for complex cases such as terrorism.
 
Nessie said:
I do not get this tweet from Tory Mark Jenkinson MP

https://twitter.com/markjenkinsonmp/status/1772167177505739114

"Choosing to represent terrorists in a foreign country, for free and outwith any ‘cab rank rule’ rule, would show serious moral deficiency.
That goes without saying to the vast majority of people."

I presume it is an attack on Starmer, but can any UK lawyer represent someone abroad, in a different legal system? UK lawyers cannot appear in courts throughout the UK, let alone abroad.

The can rank rule prevents criminal court lawyers refusing to represent clients. Where does the free come from? I know some lawyers will do pro-bono work, but not normally for complex cases such as terrorism.
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He knows that the press, and most people, won't do any effective fact checking so this smear has a chance of working. :mad:
 
Wudang said:
£100k per annum is well into the top 5%.
"Before deducting housing costs, £ per year, 2022. Household income at the 95th percentile is £81,357"

Source : https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/mar/24/despite-what-jeremy-hunt-thinks-high-income-salary
"Even in the relatively affluent Godalming and Ash constituency Hunt is contesting, where a chat with an unhappy voter prompted him to muse about the challenges of six-figure salaries, estimates by the consultancy Electoral Calculus put the median at little more than half that: £56,606."
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I think it's fair to say that in much of the country £100k isn't going to fund a particularly extravagant lifestyle*, and that's a pretty sad admission from a Chancellor when it's approximately three times the median wage and, as you say, more than 94% of us make.

*I don't mean this in a 'poor rich people' sense, but if you have three kids, are paying for childcare, a house with three decent size bedrooms and a garden that going to be taking a pretty big chunk of pay and people further down the payscale are facing homelessness & relying on foodbanks. Contrast to my own childhood when my NHS hospital domestic single mother rented a good sized three bed council house, we were secure in our tenancy and while we didn't have extravagant luxuries we never went hungry and had much, much better than subsistence life. At that time someone at the 95th percentile was doing a hell of a lot better than 'alright'.
 
Darat said:
Predictions for Tory manifesto:

They will put in leaving the EC(onvention)HR.
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It would tie in well with their attempts to smear Starmer for providing accused people with the legal advice that every even moderately free society agrees they should be entitled to.
 
Daily Mail angry because Starmerh was paid £900 for some work by the legal company that represented Shamima Begum back before he entered politics.

Wait until the they find out that Lord Pannick who represented Boris Johnson Privileges Committee also represented Shamima Begum.
 
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We're witnessing really worrying sustained long term attacks, on multiple fronts, on the whole concept of a fair trial and equal justice system.
 
I wonder how a Tory would react if a barrister refused to represent them?
 
Another day, another by-election looming. Scott Benton has announced his immediate resignation as MP, which means the by-election in his seat will be held on May 2.
 
KDLarsen said:
Another day, another by-election looming. Scott Benton has announced his immediate resignation as MP, which means the by-election in his seat will be held on May 2.
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Remind me what he was being investigated for? And of course it is entirely coincidental that it aligns with his decision to spend more time with his family.

ETA: Remembered - he's the cash for access one.
 
Samson said:
His hate speech law makes it a crime to criticise Islam...
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No it doesn't, it states that "discussion or criticism relating to, or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule or insult towards" religions are allowed.
 
Darat said:
Remind me what he was being investigated for? And of course it is entirely coincidental that it aligns with his decision to spend more time with his family.

ETA: Remembered - he's the cash for access one.
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By the standards of this iteration of the Tory Party that's an honourable discharge. Maybe he could grope a couple of unwilling service staff on the way out from packing his desk just so as to not make his colleagues look bad?
 
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