Aridas
Crazy Little Green Dragon
To poke at the other potential usage here of "One cannot rewrite History by altering or erasing it" and the more general attempted argument - "Fake News" has long been well identified to have two particular features of relevance to ChrisBRFPKY's attempted larger argument.
First, the one that he's effectively relying upon. False, misleading, and distorted for some purpose information is something that appears across the political spectrum and neither more mainstream news nor people in general are completely immune to it. There is indeed both left-wing and right-wing fake news that gets believed and spread. ChrisBRFPKY sure looks like he's gone a little further than both-siderism, though, in how he's effectively tried to imply that it's just the left that is susceptible to fake news, even if he hasn't explicitly argued that. It's a little telling, though, that he chose what he did as an example. ChrisBRFPKY has a point when it comes to the "very fine people" comment being taken out of the immediate context. Even that, though, is a superficial and misleading point when it comes to the larger context of Trump aiding, abetting, and emboldening white supremacists in practice and making it plenty clear that he considered them "his people," which is why it had and continues to have persuasive power on the subject. It's a pretty crappy example to use to demonstrate that people were actually meaningfully fooled by "fake news," but it's an easy thing to latch onto for those who are only looking for some straw to grasp.
The second, which ChrisBRFPKY hasn't so much as come close to acknowledging, is that in study after study after study, believing and spreading fake news is much, much more of a problem when it comes to those on the right-wing. Further, such right-wing fake news has actively and increasingly been influencing Republican policy and politics. A bunch of these things are ridiculous, of course, such as the crap like "Kitty litter is being put into schools by woke people so that furries can be respected (blegh!) and go to the bathroom with it (horrifying)!" Yeah, no. Kitty litter was being put into some schools, yes, but as an emergency measure in case of school shootings, a problem for which the extremist right-wing bears overwhelming responsibility. But then, the overwhelming share of "Anti-Woke" complaints tend to be unmitigated horse pucky on actual examination and often attempts to blame the "left" for problems that those on the "right" caused with their irresponsibility.
Going a bit further when it comes to the Presidential candidates, Trump, himself, has perhaps been the greatest single source for disinformation and fake news, period. His election lies (which swayed most Republicans in fair part because of a long running Republican fake news campaign) and coronavirus lies (he was the "single largest driver of coronavirus misinformation"), in particular, were egregious, let alone the nigh constant stream of various BS that he's been pushing all along.
If "Fake News" was actually ChrisBRFPWY's concern, he'd not be supporting Trump. He's well aware that it's an issue that people like us do care about, though, hence why he's tried the tactic that he did.
First, the one that he's effectively relying upon. False, misleading, and distorted for some purpose information is something that appears across the political spectrum and neither more mainstream news nor people in general are completely immune to it. There is indeed both left-wing and right-wing fake news that gets believed and spread. ChrisBRFPKY sure looks like he's gone a little further than both-siderism, though, in how he's effectively tried to imply that it's just the left that is susceptible to fake news, even if he hasn't explicitly argued that. It's a little telling, though, that he chose what he did as an example. ChrisBRFPKY has a point when it comes to the "very fine people" comment being taken out of the immediate context. Even that, though, is a superficial and misleading point when it comes to the larger context of Trump aiding, abetting, and emboldening white supremacists in practice and making it plenty clear that he considered them "his people," which is why it had and continues to have persuasive power on the subject. It's a pretty crappy example to use to demonstrate that people were actually meaningfully fooled by "fake news," but it's an easy thing to latch onto for those who are only looking for some straw to grasp.
The second, which ChrisBRFPKY hasn't so much as come close to acknowledging, is that in study after study after study, believing and spreading fake news is much, much more of a problem when it comes to those on the right-wing. Further, such right-wing fake news has actively and increasingly been influencing Republican policy and politics. A bunch of these things are ridiculous, of course, such as the crap like "Kitty litter is being put into schools by woke people so that furries can be respected (blegh!) and go to the bathroom with it (horrifying)!" Yeah, no. Kitty litter was being put into some schools, yes, but as an emergency measure in case of school shootings, a problem for which the extremist right-wing bears overwhelming responsibility. But then, the overwhelming share of "Anti-Woke" complaints tend to be unmitigated horse pucky on actual examination and often attempts to blame the "left" for problems that those on the "right" caused with their irresponsibility.
Going a bit further when it comes to the Presidential candidates, Trump, himself, has perhaps been the greatest single source for disinformation and fake news, period. His election lies (which swayed most Republicans in fair part because of a long running Republican fake news campaign) and coronavirus lies (he was the "single largest driver of coronavirus misinformation"), in particular, were egregious, let alone the nigh constant stream of various BS that he's been pushing all along.
If "Fake News" was actually ChrisBRFPWY's concern, he'd not be supporting Trump. He's well aware that it's an issue that people like us do care about, though, hence why he's tried the tactic that he did.
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