9/11: The Smoking Gun

Originally Posted by JSanderO
Heard a radio talking head claim the collapse was caused by crappy insulation associated with a Gotti family contractor.

Does that "radio talking-head" have a name? That statement is a blatent antisamnitic slur and
this "talking-head should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. You
practice your craft in New York City i believe. Name the radio station's call letters as well.
You should be ashamed to post this garbage statement to
a public forum with no evidence to back the "talking dimwit's" asinine tripe.

A search of use of the word 'dimwit' by JSanderO in this thread gives no results. Can you link to the post where he said this, please?


JSanderO used the term talking head.
Fonebone repeated the term enclosed in quotation marks.
Fonebone corrupted the term JSanderO used and enclosed the
term in quotation marks.
Are you still flummoxed ?

An entirely inadequate, though wholly predictable, response to a request for evidence from a truther. Same old same old, for over 20 years now.
It's easy to flummox a lummox __Samuel Clemens
 
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Couple quick questions, just on this page:

John Gatti's grandparents were from Naples, so that means they are pure line direct descendants of that exact area going back to 400 BC, or was that I joke I didn't get?

Is the jetliner being now declared to have been a 787 based on some guy who drew in those numbers on an illustration for a YT video, or was there some official statement, or is the illustrator dude actually the puppetmaster of the whole operation and slipped up, or what?
 
Couple quick questions, just on this page:

John Gatti's grandparents were from Naples, so that means they are pure line direct descendants of that exact area going back to 400 BC, or was that I joke I didn't get?

Is the jetliner being now declared to have been a 787 based on some guy who drew in those numbers on an illustration for a YT video, or was there some official statement, or is the illustrator dude actually the puppetmaster of the whole operation and slipped up, or what?

Shear stupidity, the hole was created by a 767 full stop, no matter what the slight of hand in the video represents. Another bit of misdirection.
 
fantasy of missiles, evidence is not required

Bump :Addressed to Yankee451
Greetings Yankee - Fonebone here.
Your "smoking Gun " thread is one year and a few days old and the views are approaching twenty five thousand. Time for an update if you have uncovered
additional evidence. Thanks -Fonebone

Yankee has no evidence, he has an insane claim. Yankee, like you, lives in a fantasy world.

Yankee has a fantasy of a missle, which has less mass than one engine on flight 11 and 175. Makes the claims of a missile dumber than a box of rocks.

Note: fantasy missile has LESS MASS than one engine on the real aircraft - lol this can't get dumber, but it will as you and Yankee double down on stupid claims.

The warhead on the missile has less energy than the KE (aka Kinetic energy) of the aircraft that hit the WTC. oops, physics kills missile fantasy... again, but this does not stop stupid claims...

More insanity, thinking the missile can carry jet fuel to create the jet fuel fireball seen on 9/11 at aircraft impact. The jet fuel fireball is equal to more than 20 times the weight of a missile. oops, the missle can't make the jet fuel fireball seen on 9/11. Proof 9/11 truthers with insane claims can't do math, physics, and fail to join reality for two decades.


There was no evidence for Yankee. Hope of additional evidence to support the missile fantasy... lol
 
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Fonebone corrupted the term JSanderO used and enclosed the
term in quotation marks. ...

We are best advised now to consider in the future that EVERY bit of what you claim to be "evidece", "quotes", "facts" is likewise "corrupted" by you - i.e. made up from whole cloth with a clear intention to decieve.

Aka "lies".

Thanks for demonstrating in such detail how you go to lenghts and even to pain in order to lie, to falsify, to corrupt, to libel.
 
Looks to be normal size here. And if you look at the second, sped-up video, you can see how the impact made the entire building sway. That could ONLY be caused by the momentum of a fully-laden full-size 767.


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Once again, the enemies of truth and justice have employed dirty and underhanded tactics in an attempt to impede or scuttle the 9-11 truth-seekers.
 
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Once again, ...

Once again? Got an example of when this happened before?

Funny thing is: Until recently, and for a few months, I got such "unsafe" and "virus" alerts from my anti-virus SW when I attempted to open any ae911truth.org articles (the homepage / root seemed to be safe, the alert came when clicking any internal link there).

Would you say that AE911T are "the enemies of truth and justice [who] have employed dirty and underhanded tactics in an attempt to impede or scuttle the 9-11 truth-seekers"?
 
Fonebone
Once again, the enemies of truth and justice have employed dirty and underhanded tactics in an attempt to impede or scuttle the 9-11 truth-seekers.
Once again? Got an example of when this happened before?
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One example of "dirty and underhanded tactics" utilized by the
"truth-denier gaggle" is illustrated here!
Fonebone< https://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13170785#post13170785


Click on the link supplied in the post and view the video and hear the TV reporter live shouting
"--huge explosion, raining debris down on all of us."
The link is broken--
In the very next post a "cunning Linguist" outlines the dirty tactic.
Would you like to see another example of "dirty underhanded tactics"?
Before you answer, consult this link
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf
Firemen testimonies about explosions in black and white.

The video broken link is preserved here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPVNLLo-mI
 
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Fonebone



One example of "dirty and underhanded tactics" utilized by the
"truth-denier gaggle" is illustrated here!
Fonebone< https://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13170785#post13170785


Click on the link supplied in the post and view the video and hear the TV reporter live shouting
"--huge explosion, raining debris down on all of us."
The link is broken--
In the very next post a "cunning Linguist" outlines the dirty tactic.
Would you like to see another example of "dirty underhanded tactics"?
Before you answer, consult this link
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_5_118Witnesses_WorldTradeCenter.pdf
Firemen testimonies about explosions in black and white.

The video broken link is preserved here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPVNLLo-mI

It's a slow day, so I'll explain the obvious (again)...

All of the NYC 9-11 attacks and aftermath events are on video. They were recorded from multiple angles by people who didn't know each other; some professional, some law enforcement, and the rest were citizens with cameras. We have thousands of still images, and many videos ranging in quality.

They all show the same thing: 2 commercial jets flew into each of the towers of the WTC. The resulting fire and structural damage caused them to collapse. WTC-7 was raked by WTC-1 as it came down, and collapsed after burning for several hours. WTC-7 was allowed to burn as it was evacuated, and due to the already catastrophic loss of 343 firefighters, and the structural damage of many of the remaining WTC buildings the surviving fire incident command wasn't willing to risk more lives. WTC-7 collapsed over a period of 20 minutes allowing rescue personnel in the area to get clear before the outer shell came down.

None of these facts are in dispute by any reasonable people.

Yes, firefighters reported the sound of explosions. There are things inside tall building which will explode when exposed to fire. I'm not sure how this fact has evaded your knowledge, but it is not suspicious. And not everything that looks and or sound like an explosion is an explosion. The NYP Bomb Squad was positioned right outside WTC-7, they never reported explosions. FDNY, the NY State Police, FBI, and ATF had investigators onsite during the recovery, and clearing of "The Pile" at ground zero. No evidence of explosives were found in the remains of the WTC.

In the 23 years since 9-11, no firefighters have come forward with claims, no FBI, ATF, or NYPD investigators have leaked details of their work to the press to dispute the "official story". In this same timeframe we've had dozens of high-profile leaks from US intelligence agencies, and the FBI, and DoD. We even have UFO cultists working in the Pentagon leaking videos of party balloons in Iraq. Yet nothing from any of the dozens of 9-11 investigations has been leaked. Why is that? If the biggest social/political event in US history since WWII was a lie, where is the evidence? We have people staging walk-outs at the State Department over our support of Israel, but everyone's cool with the murder of 3,000 Americans, and 24 years of war?

My question is in 2024, why are the only people still chasing 9-11 CTs are either scam artists or antisocial fools?
 


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Once again, the enemies of truth and justice have employed dirty and underhanded tactics in an attempt to impede or scuttle the 9-11 truth-seekers.

Mods: is there any truth to fonebone's claim of a trojan virus in that link?
Or is this an example of a dirty and underhanded tactic in an attempt to impede or scuttle truth-seekers?
 
Mods: is there any truth to fonebone's claim of a trojan virus in that link?
Or is this an example of a dirty and underhanded tactic in an attempt to impede or scuttle truth-seekers?

The link did trigger a warning of a possible trojan. The original post was edited with the following edit comment, didn't realise it had also been quoted. The quoted post has now also been edited.
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The link did trigger a warning of a possible trojan. The original post was edited with the following edit comment, didn't realise it had also been quoted. The quoted post has now also been edited.
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YIKES!!!! I apologize to everyone, and hope no one has been affected/infected by that link. Obviously (I hope) I received no such warning the times I used it. I just checked my computer system's security logs and found no unwanted activity. Regardless, thanks for cleaning up the mess, Darat.
 


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Once again, the enemies of truth and justice have employed dirty and underhanded tactics in an attempt to impede or scuttle the 9-11 truth-seekers.


I do have a question for you regarding this oddly timed revelation. Since my OP in question was posted over a year prior to your complaint, what took so long for you to look/comment on it?

And for anyone else that may know, how long would it take for an unprincipled lunatic to attach a trojan horse to someone else's website, even if said loony wasn't all that smart?
 
I do have a question for you regarding this oddly timed revelation. Since my OP in question was posted over a year prior to your complaint, what took so long for you to look/comment on it?

And for anyone else that may know, how long would it take for an unprincipled lunatic to attach a trojan horse to someone else's website, even if said loony wasn't all that smart?

Fonebone regularly takes over a year to respond to posts. Something to do with an inability to multitask.
 
Once again, the enemies of truth and justice have employed dirty and underhanded tactics in an attempt to impede or scuttle the 9-11 truth-seekers.

The link was posted for everyone to see. It was not targetted at Truthers: anyone on this forum could have clicked on it. It's the same insane, implausible scattergun tactic that is claimed for chemtrails: the Evil ThemTM are attacking their own people, presumably because they are Evil. :rolleyes:
 
YIKES!!!! I apologize to everyone...

Why?
No doubt the link was fine when you posted it, or at least security software that was current at the time gave no warnings, so you did nothing wrong.
It is entirely possible that the content you linked to has been changed. Such happens all the time. The internet is not hewn in granite.
I think we all have realized the perils of following links, and learned how to cope with them, more than 20 years ago (or learned it early in school, if you are younger).

That fonebone would throw a tantrum might indicate merely that he doesn't understand how the internet works. Which would go a long way to explaining why he still buys into conspiracy theories.
 

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