Why I should vote for Trump?
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Emily's Cat
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Mercurial is a fair description.
Although... I also recall some pretty serious discussions here were many members were 100% convinced that Trump was so aggro that he was going to start lobbing nukes left and right on their first day in office. So I'd say there was a fair bit of perception that they were militarily aggressive... that perception just didn't pan out.
Craig4
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It's funny you think that will ever happen.Where are the Americans making this claim? I only hear it from Trump supporters and they can't be trusted. They aren't like Americans, they don't share our American values.
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Stacyhs
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You're right. I've had enough of banging my head against a brick wall. You can't reason with unreasonable people like cultists who have drunk the Kool-Aid, so why waste the time?
Roger Ramjets
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Are you sure? I want to see that list.
Craig4
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Don't forget, he's a Russian spy too. Also, Trump was given a heads up on the DNC hacking info release. If we're going to go with the Media/Democrat talking points/"stories", may as well throw them all in together.
PS The World is burning, just so you know.
No, the **** isn't just a spy. Donald Trump is a filthy Russian whore. Seriously, the treasonous **** couldn't even be bothered to play hard to get before he spread his legs and took from Putin on stage i Helsinki. The stupid lard ass isn't even a real man.
That people back him is just more proof that Trumptrash aren't really Americans. They're something less than us.
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Ivor the Engineer
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Perhaps a better question than the OP is why should you vote for any of them?
Politicians are all just degrees of corrupt and merely utter words that appeal to your biases while implementing what their paymasters want, which only by coincidence may have something to do with what's in the interest average voter.
It would be a truly wonderful day if the world just sat down Gandhi-like and said "No, we're not going to endorse any of you. Your move."
Politicians are all just degrees of corrupt and merely utter words that appeal to your biases while implementing what their paymasters want, which only by coincidence may have something to do with what's in the interest average voter.
It would be a truly wonderful day if the world just sat down Gandhi-like and said "No, we're not going to endorse any of you. Your move."
lobosrul5
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I guess we could all refuse to vote and see what happens? Probably nothing good.
MarkCorrigan
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From an ideological standpoint that would be interesting.
Unfortunately in the real world people on both sides are always going to turn out to vote. The trick is to make sure that the people who turn up in bigger numbers are the ones that don't want to burn down the world just to own the libs or whatever lunatic idea they've got into their heads this month.
Stacyhs
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Do you believe in fairies, unicorns, and leprechauns, too?
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That's actually a fair point. Only a half-wit, lacking any kind of discernment, can possibly vote for Trump. On the other hand, given Israel, I think Biden has no real cred either. That he's a better choice than Trump is because literally a monkey would be a better choice than Trump. So it makes sense, in this climate, what you say.
But not really. Because if you abstained from voting because of your principles, then the ones who don't have any will carry the vote. And we all know which candidate that would favor.
Fidelio
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Now now kiddos, just because someone is blatatnly , screaming obviously mentally ill is not a reason to not give him the keys to ending human civilization.
I'll be one of those really good dictators.
I'll be one of those really good dictators.
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"Why vote for either" was one of those cries used in 2016 to discourage voter turnout when turnout tends to favor democrats.
You saw it in many forms: "Giant Meteor 2016!!!" or the like.
When someone says "don't choose" that's a choice.
You saw it in many forms: "Giant Meteor 2016!!!" or the like.
When someone says "don't choose" that's a choice.
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Agreed 100%. As far as now, and as far as last time. (Not 2016, though, not really.)
Voting is about you personally, sure, but it's also about the world out there. To focus on the former to the complete exclusion of the latter is to be dysfunctionally self-centered.
Sure, if there were someone sane, someone possessing the rudiments of decency and integrity and honesty, and someone not a complete sociopath in terms of empathy and concern for anyone other than himself, as candidate for the other side; and also if the entire side hadn't devolved to pushing insane extremes: if both of these were to happen, then it might be reasonable to abstain, given Israel, in order to send out the only kind of message politicians understand.
And arguably, one might have been excused for acting on that impulse the first time, given Hillary, and given one might not have been able to imagine the complete grotesquerie Trump would reduce that high office to, and indeed the entire party. Arguably, abstaining back then, that was disastrous in retrospect, but one might have been excused for not knowing better.
Ivor the Engineer
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Would it need to be anywhere near complete abstinence though? At what point would the whole process become a sham?
Something else to consider: People voting for Trump are either otherwise okay human beings that have become disillusioned with the democratic process and are using it as a way to say **** you, or approaching 50% of the population of the USA are a combination of stupid, vengeful and bigoted.
Either way, the USA and many other democracies are in deep trouble and I don't think the problem is ever going to be solved by holding your nose and casting a ballot for one corrupt politician/party or another, but rather by pointing out the corruption that is so ingrained that politicians either don't see it anymore or just accept it as how business is done.
I think the first change to clean up politics would be to have publicly-funded parties and cap donations at a very low level, say $10-100 per person. Private wealth would not be allowed to be used for political campaigning.
Something else to consider: People voting for Trump are either otherwise okay human beings that have become disillusioned with the democratic process and are using it as a way to say **** you, or approaching 50% of the population of the USA are a combination of stupid, vengeful and bigoted.
Either way, the USA and many other democracies are in deep trouble and I don't think the problem is ever going to be solved by holding your nose and casting a ballot for one corrupt politician/party or another, but rather by pointing out the corruption that is so ingrained that politicians either don't see it anymore or just accept it as how business is done.
I think the first change to clean up politics would be to have publicly-funded parties and cap donations at a very low level, say $10-100 per person. Private wealth would not be allowed to be used for political campaigning.
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Causing the needless deaths of thousands of American citizens by pushing COVID misinformation.
Over here he was considered an appeaser a USA president without any courage,that licked the boots of NK, Russia, Syria and so on.
You may well be right.
I find covid and climate trigger me to ignore everyone.
There are way more interesting subjects, mostly involving indoctrination by Biden's thugs. He is blissfully unaware.
Donal
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Ya, COVID and severe flooding and wildfires are bad, but they bore me. They use big, sciency words that don't look good on a bumper sticker and are hard to pronounce in a soundbite.
that is why I focus on the real danger to society: Taylor Swift dating a football player.
that is why I focus on the real danger to society: Taylor Swift dating a football player.
When you don’t vote you are effectively supporting the majority vote. The election is still taking place, but you get the result that that the majority of voters voted for. You are not going to make a mark whatsoever. Except of course, you helped bring some candidate forward, who you could have voted against.
If for instance, Trump wins, and actually succeeds in taking over everything like his idol Putin did in Russia, you helped him do that, because you could have voted for Biden.