Cont: Luton Airport Car Park Fire part II

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The fact they're already declaring it an electric bus, means it has to be a diesel powered bus! By doing it this way they can better hide the fact that the Luton Park car was an electric car, because then they called it a diesel powered car.

Wake Up the Sheeple!!!
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Some guy is already claiming:

"While firefighters continue to investigate the cause, fire expert Neil Pederson said it was most likely due to an electrical fault and not linked to lithium batteries."
DM
 
In English grammar there is such a thing as collective nouns...

True, eg: herd, flock, gaggle, and such.

...ergo it is quite possible for one to say that people were 'singing and dancing' or that something is 'swings and roundabouts' without it in anyway meaning that people are doing both at the same time.

Nope. That has nothing to do with collective nouns.

You are wrong. Utterly, obviously, and irredeemably wrong about this.
 
As I said, it is possible the fault in the car was due to the owner messing around with customization and not a manufacturing fault.

Since this imaginary customization is entirely in your mind, one could say that indeed anything is possible.
 
In English grammar there is such a thing as collective nouns ergo it is quite possible for one to say that people were 'singing and dancing' or that something is 'swings and roundabouts' without it in anyway meaning that people are doing both at the same time.

"What on earth are you talking about? That's complete nonsense!" is pretty much the default response at this point.
 
This weeks Fully Charged Podcast is on the topic of EV fires. Robert Llewellyn is a crap interviewer IMO but his guest is interesting:



Worth a listen if you have an hour to spare.

Here's the website run by this weeks guest:

https://www.evfiresafe.com/

The tl;dr of it is that EV battery fires occur less often than in ICE vehicles but can be more complex and take longer to resolve.
 
Vixen will handwave this away, again. I'm afraid Ohms, your resistance is futile. ;)
 
This weeks Fully Charged Podcast is on the topic of EV fires. Robert Llewellyn is a crap interviewer IMO but his guest is interesting:



Worth a listen if you have an hour to spare.

Here's the website run by this weeks guest:

https://www.evfiresafe.com/

The tl;dr of it is that EV battery fires occur less often than in ICE vehicles but can be more complex and take longer to resolve.

The issue is not anything to do with statistics. The problem is the scale and intensity of such a fire, whereas in the past, you just needed a team of firefighters to turn up, now expensive fire blankets are needed and somewhere to safely dump the problem vehicle. No more just squirting your fire extinguisher under the bonnet (= US hood).

Listen to this guy who shows a recent EV fire in Colorado and the sheer headache of snuffing it out. Skip straight to 2:06 to see that clip. Question: are you able or willing to store a huge US$5,000 fire blanket in your boot?



https://youtu.be/X_8mK2wNt2M?si=fKBpxB-7WcThJen_

Instead of trying to cover it up / evade the issue /censor details, it is a conversation that needs to be had.

People aren't stupid. They do not want their heads patted reassuringly.
 
The issue is not anything to do with statistics. The problem is the scale and intensity of such a fire, whereas in the past, you just needed a team of firefighters to turn up, now expensive fire blankets are needed and somewhere to safely dump the problem vehicle. No more just squirting your fire extinguisher under the bonnet (= US hood).

Listen to this guy who shows a recent EV fire in Colorado and the sheer headache of snuffing it out. Skip straight to 2:06 to see that clip. Question: are you able or willing to store a huge US$5,000 fire blanket in your boot?



https://youtu.be/X_8mK2wNt2M?si=fKBpxB-7WcThJen_

Instead of trying to cover it up / evade the issue /censor details, it is a conversation that needs to be had.

People aren't stupid. They do not want their heads patted reassuringly.
Which all has nothing to do with what started the fire at Luton Airport.
 
Instead of trying to cover it up / evade the issue /censor details, it is a conversation that needs to be had.

You haven't shown that anyone is covering up, evading, or censoring anything. You've merely cherry-picked the available facts and measured them against your poorly-informed lay opinion.

People aren't stupid. They do not want their heads patted reassuringly.

Nor, I suspect, do they want to be kept in a constant state of outrage and fear by the ignorant pearl-clutching of conspiracy theorists. You're not holding powerful interests accountable. You're not helping.
 
In English grammar there is such a thing as collective nouns ergo it is quite possible for one to say that people were 'singing and dancing' or that something is 'swings and roundabouts' without it in anyway meaning that people are doing both at the same time.


Where, exactly, is the collective noun in "<fx tugs forelock, doffs cap>"?
 
The issue is not anything to do with statistics. The problem is the scale and intensity of such a fire, whereas in the past, you just needed a team of firefighters to turn up, now expensive fire blankets are needed and somewhere to safely dump the problem vehicle. No more just squirting your fire extinguisher under the bonnet (= US hood).

Listen to this guy who shows a recent EV fire in Colorado and the sheer headache of snuffing it out. Skip straight to 2:06 to see that clip. Question: are you able or willing to store a huge US$5,000 fire blanket in your boot?



https://youtu.be/X_8mK2wNt2M?si=fKBpxB-7WcThJen_

Instead of trying to cover it up / evade the issue /censor details, it is a conversation that needs to be had.

People aren't stupid. They do not want their heads patted reassuringly.

That EV fire doesn't look anything like the fire pictured in the car park.
 
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