The Jan 6 Investigation (2)

[Aridas]

This is one time I agree with giving a policeman Immunity from Procecution.

I'm in favor of it being dismissed on a number of grounds, given how its basis is pretty much gaslighting. I'm not in favor of giving the police immunity from prosecution, though, in general, because that encourages worse outcomes across the board. As in this case, there should be plenty of more valid reasons to dismiss a suit when such is actually a farce.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

I'm in favor of it being dismissed on a number of grounds, given how its basis is pretty much gaslighting. I'm not in favor of giving the police immunity from prosecution, though, in general, because that encourages worse outcomes across the board. As in this case, there should be plenty of more valid reasons to dismiss a suit when such is actually a farce.

I agree I was only referring to cases of putting down an Insurrection at the Capitol.

 

[gabeygoat]

He didn't even need immunity, as they found no reason to charge him

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

More interesting information seems like Trump's and Jerome Corsi's buddy Stone is into Attempted assassinations, did I say some where they were into that? Wonder if it's not just Trump, and Stone that wanted people dead, but also their buddies at Fox Fraud News.
If this tape is accurate it just confirms what I already know from personal experience. A little guy can't fight the Mob alone.
https://youtu.be/IJrcTt7cAuE?si=RWKkISt9oK2yzy1O

It gets more bizarre by the day. Wonder what all this will look like in Nov?

Could be Trump wants the current court cases to be very loud (metaphorically); cover for this assassination stuff.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Before opening the link, my immediate thought was, "I bet some right-wing group is behind this." Sure enough:

"The lawsuit, which was filed by conservative group Judicial Watch on behalf of Babbitt’s widower, Aaron Babbitt, and her estate, contends that she was “ambushed” by the officer, however."

Babbitt's mother seems a bit nutty, too.

Ambushed? Do they not know we've all seen the video?

Maybe Judicial Watch is just looking for some gaslighting excuse, so many people don't read beyond the headline or the first line or 2.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

It gets more bizarre by the day. Wonder what all this will look like in Nov?

Could be Trump wants the current court cases to be very loud (metaphorically); cover for this assassination stuff.

Trump, Stone, and the Murdocks have used fixers and conspiracy theorist crazies for years to target people, do you think people would have followed Trump early if Trump were proven a moron in his early Birther days?

 

[Trebuchet]

More interesting information seems like Trump's and Jerome Corsi's buddy Stone is into Attempted assassinations, did I say some where they were into that? Wonder if it's not just Trump, and Stone that wanted people dead, but also their buddies at Fox Fraud News.
If this tape is accurate it just confirms what I already know from personal experience. A little guy can't fight the Mob alone.
https://youtu.be/IJrcTt7cAuE?si=RWKkISt9oK2yzy1O

Stone claims it's faked by AI.

On Monday, Mediate published excerpts of what the site claimed was exclusive audio it had obtained of Roger Stone discussing the need to assassinate Democratic Reps. Jerry Nadler and Eric Swalwell before the 2020 election. MSNBC has not verified the existence or details of the audio. When asked for comment, Stone told Mediate the alleged audio was created using artificial intelligence.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Stone claims it's faked by AI.

I doubt that it's faked because it's the Republican conspiracy theorists basic plan using goons like Trump used the January 6th Insurrectionists.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Given Judicial Watch's track record, the lawsuit has zero chance of winning.
And they didn't care - losing is better than winning for them, they don't give a **** about the family.
What they want is some Discovery that they can twist for propaganda purposes.

 

[bruto]

I doubt that it's faked because it's the Republican conspiracy theorists basic plan using goons like Trump used the January 6th Insurrectionists.

You doubt? Doubt? Isn't that kind of like saying you doubt that pigs are capable of supersonic flight? A certain degree of politeness is called for on this forum, but not that much!

 

[JayUtah]

Isn't that kind of like saying you doubt that pigs are capable of supersonic flight?

Speaking with my rocket scientist hat on: Anything is capable of supersonic flight given sufficient thrust.

 

[Mike!]

Speaking with my rocket scientist hat on: Anything is capable of supersonic flight given sufficient thrust.

I would argue they would also, at the very least, require some sort of protective headgear, and perhaps some sort of eye protection or goggles, but it's also worth noting, that at no point did bruto imply a supersonic swine was required to survive said flight, only obtain supersonic velocity, and if they'd care to clarify some of the now obviously unknown variables to some degree, all concerned parties could quantify their assessments towards a more certain end result.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Speaking with my rocket scientist hat on: Anything is capable of supersonic flight given sufficient thrust.

XKCD's What If:

Question: "What if you flew a regular airplane, say a Cessna 172 Skyhawk (The most common plane in the world) on the surface of other planets/stellar bodies in the solar system?"

Answer for Venus: "Your plane would fly pretty well, except it would be on fire the whole time, and then it would stop flying, and then stop being a plane."

 

[JayUtah]

...at no point did bruto imply a supersonic swine was required to survive said flight, only obtain supersonic velocity...

Exactly. Don't assume operational requirements that aren't stated.

Question: "What if you flew a regular airplane, say a Cessna 172 Skyhawk (The most common plane in the world) on the surface of other planets/stellar bodies in the solar system?"

Answer for Venus: "Your plane would fly pretty well, except it would be on fire the whole time, and then it would stop flying, and then stop being a plane."

My first flight lesson was 42 years ago this month, in the venerated Skyhawk. No GPS. No ILS. And it was snowing. Uphill, both ways. My first ever landing was on a cropduster's strip in a blizzard. We were gods.

But yeah, "Faked using AI" is just this year's "Fake news!" claim. The guy who uses armed citizen militias as his bodyguards wouldn't dream of suggesting breaking the law.

 

[TragicMonkey]

XKCD's What If:

Question: "What if you flew a regular airplane, say a Cessna 172 Skyhawk (The most common plane in the world) on the surface of other planets/stellar bodies in the solar system?"

Answer for Venus: "Your plane would fly pretty well, except it would be on fire the whole time, and then it would stop flying, and then stop being a plane."

Now I'm curious about Pluto. Would the tiny atmosphere make it impossible to fly at all? Or would the low gravity mean any normal Earth plane becomes a spaceship? And yes Pluto is a planet I was born in the 1970s so that is the side I am on forever.

 

[Stacyhs]

Roger Stone is capable of absolutely anything except being a decent human being.

 

[Armitage72]

Now I'm curious about Pluto. Would the tiny atmosphere make it impossible to fly at all? Or would the low gravity mean any normal Earth plane becomes a spaceship? And yes Pluto is a planet I was born in the 1970s so that is the side I am on forever.

Pluto was in this group:
"In most cases, there’s no atmosphere, and the plane falls straight to the ground. (If it’s dropped from one kilometer, in a few cases, the crash will be slow enough that the pilot may survive—although the life-support equipment probably won’t.)"

 

[dirtywick]

what's particularly insidious about roger stone is that, while it's incredibly cowardly to pretend like it's a deep fake ai when you said what you said, but it's that he's trying to talk someone else into taking action for him. they sucker people with lies, stuff their pockets, and pretend like they knew nothing and walk away.

to me it's really an indictment on conservatives that they tolerate people like roger stone, let alone elevate them.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

Roger Stone is capable of absolutely anything except being a decent human being.

It isn't just Stone, it's all his buddies, Trump, Sean Hannity, Jerome Corsi, the Murdocks, and all the others in that group who think they are above the Law, and have no Morals.

 

[ferd burfle]

Trump, Stone, and the Murdocks have used fixers and conspiracy theorist crazies for years to target people, do you think people would have followed Trump early if Trump were proven a moron in his early Birther days?

How about “Mudrocks”?