It was really me and my cousin on my mum's side, who was born and raised in Luton, who did it. I was bored and wondered if I could wind Vixen up. Sorry, that side of my family have a long history of being worky tickets, as opposed to my dad's side, who are from the Black Country and thus could not qualify as worky tickets...
You guys would make terrible lawyers as you appear not to understand chronology. To recap on the time line:
Fire started 10 Oct 2023 circa 20:50.
11 Dec 2023 next morning whilst fire still smouldering, Mr Andrew Hopkinson told the press - and this was issued to the global press agencies, that Beds Fire & Rescue, who are responsible for investigating in cooperation with the police and bringing out a Fire Report into the incident - that it believed at that stage that the fire was accidental and believed to have been a diesel-powered car and not an EV, subject to confirmation.
Firstly, the statement made to the press present on the scene that you keep going back to was not a press release.
Secondly, if you bothered to follow the link I have provided numerous times to the Fire Service's actual press release on this matter you would see that it was updated several times, the last being at 3:30pm on the 12th of October. This update stated that:
Bedfordshire Fire & Rescue Service said:
...The fire service can confirm the initial vehicle involved in the fire was a diesel car...
This press release was published not only after Hopkinson made his statement to the press present on scene (and only them), it was published before you started the first iteration of this thread.
You would make a terrible lawyer, as you appear not to understand chronology.
You guys would make terrible lawyers as you appear not to understand chronology
. To recap on the time line:
Fire started 10 Oct 2023
circa 20:50.
11 Dec 2023 next morning whilst fire still smouldering
, Mr Andrew Hopkinson told the press - and this was issued to the global press agencies, that Beds Fire & Rescue, who are responsible for investigating in cooperation with the police and bringing out a Fire Report into the incident - that it believed at that stage that the fire was accidental and believed to have been a diesel-powered car and not an EV, subject to confirmation.
Don't you see??? You're relying on the lies of the Gregorian calendar. You're really gonna trust a pope from the 16th century to tell you the truth about a carport fire?
First of all, what is an "authenticated journalist? Don't answer that, it's something you made up to make something you read on twitter sound authorative.
Secondly, why are you hanging your hat on a message sent to a journalist which can be interpreted in such a way as not rule out a particular type of engine, when there's an actual press release by the relevant fire service stating unequivocally what type of engine it was?
You might be having difficulty finding the relevant press release which stated that the Bedfordshire fire service believes the engine is a diesel engine. Perhaps someone can link to it or quote it.
Where do you get the idea it was a 2014 or even a 2015 model? The only person claiming this is an anonymous person on X with 212 followers, and which catsmate thinks is a reliable source.
When the Fire Report from both Luton and Bristol come out, I can guarantee the only information regarding vehicle zero will be that it was an 'accidental ignition'. The new euphemism for 'The public are not allowed to know'.
When the Fire Report from both Luton and Bristol come out, I can guarantee the only information regarding vehicle zero will be that it was an 'accidental ignition'. The new euphemism for 'The public are not allowed to know'.
All the information will be made public. Most of the public will comprehend. Some few members of the public will be incapable of comprehension. And some few of those will continue to espouse actually incomprehensible conspiracy theories.
First of all, what is an "authenticated journalist? Don't answer that, it's something you made up to make something you read on twitter sound authorative.
Secondly, why are you hanging your hat on a message sent to a journalist which can be interpreted in such a way as not rule out a particular type of engine, when there's an actual press release by the relevant fire service stating unequivocally what type of engine it was?
You might be having difficulty finding the relevant press release which stated that the Bedfordshire fire service believes the engine is a diesel engine. Perhaps someone can link to it or quote it.
Jasper Jolly, Finance Editor for the GUARDIAN was writing a series called, 'EV Mythbusters' or similar, so like a good hack, he contacted Beds Fire & Rescue to check his sources. As this is the GUARDIAN and it was to be a proper article and not just a tabloid 'cut & paste', Beds Fire & Rescue had to be careful to not give him inaccurate information so this time it said the car involved was not a fully electric vehicle, to clarify, not a plug-in electric nor a fully electric vehicle. If you recall, the original soundbite was 'we believe it was a diesel-powered vehicle and not an EV'.
Then we had the Bristol Airport Car Park - open air - fire dated 10 Dec 2023, destroying eleven cars with between 20% to 100% damage and which was put out after two hours. So now the authorities have learnt their lesson and the fob-off to the press is now:
The cause of the fire is not thought to be suspicious, with Avon Fire and Rescue Service reporting that it had been due to an "accidental ignition", and the airport authorities stating that it was "not known at this stage" whether an electric or internal combustion powered vehicle had been the initial source of the blaze.
So Avon Fire & Rescue and I dare say all such fires from hereon in will be described as an "accidental ignition", and I wouldn't be surprised if that is how it will be described as in the ensuing Fire Reports.
Can't have the plebs realising that 'diesel powered' could include a mild hybrid. So now we have 'one size fits all' to take care of pesky speculation.
Why the need to not be transparent all of a sudden?
Perhaps the clue lies in Jasper Jolly's latest article in the GUARDIAN:
British carmaker Jaguar Land Rover has begun road testing prototypes of its electric Range Rover, in its first foray into building electric cars in the UK as it tries to catch up with rivals.
JLR, which makes the Jaguar and Land Rover brands, said it had opened a waiting list for pre-orders of the new Range Rover, its flagship vehicle, which is seen as a crucial step towards its electric future.
The electric Range Rover is being manufactured in JLR’s factory in Solihull, near Birmingham, using many of the same tools as the existing Range Rovers, which are hybrids that combine smaller batteries with a petrol engine. The shared tooling will allow JLR to shift between electric and petrol hybrid versions more quickly if its plans change.
Batteries and electric drive units will be assembled at JLR’s plant in Wolverhampton.
A mild hybrid Range Rover can be yours, a snip at £103,000. I wonder why they would want to 'protect the brand', as it were, and not pin the blame on a Range Rover mild hybrid for 'accidentally igniting' at Luton Airport Car Park?
Who could be so cynical as to think the lack of transparency is all a calculated business ploy...?
Well, I'll just leave this video with you of Infosys Co-Founder Narayana Murthy bending down to kiss the feet of Rattan Tata.
'Watch-Infosys Co-Founder Narayana Murthy Touches Ratan Tata's Feet During An Event In Mumbai'
Rattan Tata is the owner of Jaguar Land Rover and Narayana Murthy is... the father-in-law of UK Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, his wife's father, and said to be 'richer than the Queen'. Sunak's shares in Infosys were transferred over to his wife when he took up the job of PM. Make of that what you will.
Jasper Jolly, Finance Editor for the GUARDIAN was writing a series called, 'EV Mythbusters' or similar, so like a good hack, he contacted Beds Fire & Rescue to check his sources. As this is the GUARDIAN and it was to be a proper article and not just a tabloid 'cut & paste', Beds Fire & Rescue had to be careful to not give him inaccurate information so this time it said the car involved was not a fully electric vehicle, to clarify, not a plug-in electric nor a fully electric vehicle. If you recall, the original soundbite was 'we believe it was a diesel-powered vehicle and not an EV'.
Then we had the Bristol Airport Car Park - open air - fire dated 10 Dec 2023, destroying eleven cars with between 20% to 100% damage and which was put out after two hours. So now the authorities have learnt their lesson and the fob-off to the press is now:
So Avon Fire & Rescue and I dare say all such fires from hereon in will be described as an "accidental ignition", and I wouldn't be surprised if that is how it will be described as in the ensuing Fire Reports.
Can't have the plebs realising that 'diesel powered' could include a mild hybrid. So now we have 'one size fits all' to take care of pesky speculation.
Why the need to not be transparent all of a sudden?
Perhaps the clue lies in Jasper Jolly's latest article in the GUARDIAN:
A mild hybrid Range Rover can be yours, a snip at £103,000. I wonder why they would want to 'protect the brand', as it were, and not pin the blame on a Range Rover mild hybrid for 'accidentally igniting' at Luton Airport Car Park?
Who could be so cynical as to think the lack of transparency is all a calculated business ploy...?
Well, I'll just leave this video with you of Infosys Co-Founder Narayana Murthy bending down to kiss the feet of Rattan Tata.
'Watch-Infosys Co-Founder Narayana Murthy Touches Ratan Tata's Feet During An Event In Mumbai'
Rattan Tata is the owner of Jaguar Land Rover and Narayana Murthy is... the father-in-law of UK Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, his wife's father, and said to be 'richer than the Queen'. Sunak's shares in Infosys were transferred over to his wife when he took up the job of PM. Make of that what you will.
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at Luton Airport Car Park?
