Cont: Musk buys Twitter II

angrysoba said:
An "army of public intellectuals replicating your views"? Is this like a herd of free thinkers?

And who is one of them? Michael Shellenberger? Sure, no doubt along with the story about how there is something fishy about the Paul Pelosi story, or about how there are too alien spaceships in Area 51.

And Francis Foster? Jeez!

Anyway, it is not dismissing them. The point you seem to miss is that the arguments are weak or non-existent. You seem to think that your inabilty to argue doesn't matter by pointing at some failed stand-up comedians who agree with you. Are you 'avin' a laff?
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Kisin is getting massive air time, and good on him. He has done it the hard way, dilligence and discipline.
These guys are a pack, the list my algo finds for me is like
Sam Harris
Jordan Petersen
Laurence Krauss
Richard Dawkins
Douglas Murray
Eric and Brett Weinsteibn
Elon Musk
Megan Daum
Megyn Kelly
John Cleese
Andrew Doyle
Graham Linehan
Helen Joyce
Kathleen Stock

And so on so on

These people must dream up something new and foreboding daily. I love them, sorry but I cant help it.
Currently I am just a youtube moron.
 
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angrysoba said:
You have a lot to be modest about.
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I predicted that response verbatim. I dont take offence easily as a resilience protocol, but I am very sure of some principles, one of which is I would rather hear what everyone has to say, and to turn back to topic, I think Musk is closer to this than girls 17 to 25 years, who demand full ideological compliance with their profound ignorance.
 
Samson said:
There is an army of public intellectuals who replicate my views. Here is one

https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1726671127840493811?t=WJIpomPZa9jpOkIIUAeWdQ&s=19

And another

https://twitter.com/AndyBird92300/status/1726531011956379659?t=EKvJtz4B2N5i08dC5GsGug&s=19

I am amazed everyone on this forum dismisses these kinds of people
Kisin is a phenomenally thoughtful and fair minded young man who is gathering pace, alongside his great friend Francis Foster. They plied trade as standups and are the very best of people. I find it depressing the supremely arrogant dismissal of alternative view points around here.
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That you can easily find others who will confirm your bias and that give you the impression of intelligence while they do so is largely irrelevant to the point I made.

The "supremely arrogant dismissal of alternative view points" is also largely irrelevant to the point I made, much as I can nigh guarantee that the real problem tends to be rather different from the view points simply being different in most cases.

With that said, personally, I'm far more interested in the quality of arguments being forwarded rather than the result or consequences. In my observation, the quality of arguments that you usually invoke is rather poor, to put it lightly. By using arguments of such quality, you're setting yourself up for opposition and dismissal, regardless of how much truth is actually in play.
 
Samson said:
I will let you do your homework, suffice it to say Mediamatters are actively supportive of trans affirming drugs for minors, which result in sterilization. These drugs are Iatrogenic and FDA disapproved for children.
Mediamatters is a hate filled organisation and I hope Musk has it called to account as a result of this debacle they manipulated with extreme malice.
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To try to verify, are you talking about stuff like -

How evangelical and right-wing media spread a false story about health care for trans youth

Right-wing and evangelical websites, as well as their social networks, amplify misinformation and build outrage against the LGBTQ community

Major right-wing and anti-LGBTQ outlets, in particular Ben Shapiro’s The Daily Wire, posted content based on misconstrued data from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to falsely suggest that drugs used to delay puberty are deadly for trans teens. The story -- which began with debunked reporting from a U.K. tabloid -- received high engagement on social media after right-wing and evangelical media apparatus boosted it.
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Samson said:
Yes that is it. Musk has allowed back the serious refutation of any benefit that drugs and knives for minors might afford.
He seems to comprehend the enormity of the vastest medical scandal in history.
Thank Jesus ****** Christ!
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Which accounts are these?
 
Samson said:
There is an army of public intellectuals who replicate my views. Here is one

https://twitter.com/shellenberger/status/1726671127840493811?t=WJIpomPZa9jpOkIIUAeWdQ&s=19

And another

https://twitter.com/AndyBird92300/status/1726531011956379659?t=EKvJtz4B2N5i08dC5GsGug&s=19

I am amazed everyone on this forum dismisses these kinds of people
Kisin is a phenomenally thoughtful and fair minded young man who is gathering pace, alongside his great friend Francis Foster. They plied trade as standups and are the very best of people. I find it depressing the supremely arrogant dismissal of alternative view points around here.
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When were those accounts banned and then unbanned by Musk?
 
Samson said:
Kisin is getting massive air time, and good on him. He has done it the hard way, dilligence and discipline.
These guys are a pack, the list my algo finds for me is like
Sam Harris
Jordan Petersen
Laurence Krauss
Richard Dawkins
Douglas Murray
Eric and Brett Weinsteibn
Elon Musk
Megan Daum
Megyn Kelly
John Cleese
Andrew Doyle
Graham Linehan
Helen Joyce
Kathleen Stock

And so on so on

These people must dream up something new and foreboding daily. I love them, sorry but I cant help it.
Currently I am just a youtube moron.
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When were their accounts banned on Twitter and then unbanned by Musk on X?
 
Samson said:
There is an army of public intellectuals who replicate my views. <drivel snippage>
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Your idea of a "public intellectual" is........interesting. Comedians, a conspiracy nut and similar.
It's rather pathetic how deep you have to scrape the barrel to find people sufficiently biogoted to agree with your hatred of transfolk.
 
I'm also not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, yada, yada, but yeah, it seems pretty accurate. And I was already wondering about it essentially admitting that yeah, just as reported, if you scroll long enough and follow certain twits (bad pun intended), you will get those ads there.

About it being filed in Texas... I'm taking a wild GUESS that he WANTS it dismissed. It fits that pattern I've been mentioning of making grand claims and not following through.

BUT I still don't get it why specifically Texas. You'd think if he's doing it for publicity, he'd choose a state without an anti-SLAPP statute. A SLAPP (strategic lawsuit against public participation) is a frivolous lawsuit, typically exactly a defamation lawsuit, designed to just discourage someone from saying legitimate criticism, or else. Typically "else" meaning you'll bury them in legal fees even if they win.

But Texas does have an anti-SLAPP statute, in the form of the Texas Citizens Participation Act.

So... what exactly is Elon thinking, your guess is as good as mine.
 
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HansMustermann said:
I'm also not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, yada, yada, but yeah, it seems pretty accurate. And I was already wondering about it essentially admitting that yeah, just as reported, if you scroll long enough and follow certain twits (bad pun intended), you will get those ads there.

About it being filed in Texas... I'm taking a wild GUESS that he WANTS it dismissed. It fits that pattern I've been mentioning of making grand claims and not following through.

BUT I still don't get it why specifically Texas. You'd think if he's doing it for publicity, he'd choose a state without an anti-SLAPP statute. A SLAPP (strategic lawsuit against public participation) is a frivolous lawsuit, typically exactly a defamation lawsuit, designed to just discourage someone from saying legitimate criticism, or else. Typically "else" meaning you'll bury them in legal fees even if they win.

But Texas does have an anti-SLAPP statute, in the form of the Texas Citizens Participation Act.

So... what exactly is Elon thinking, your guess is as good as mine.
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I think he thinks he will get a more "sympathetic" hearing given the Texas AG is gunning for Media Matters: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=14211624#post14211624
 
HansMustermann said:
But Texas does have an anti-SLAPP statute, in the form of the Texas Citizens Participation Act.
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...which can't be used in federal courts, where this lawsuit was filed.

Notable that his usual consigliore hasn't attached his name to this case. Probably because he has a modicum of self respect or something.
 
Samson said:
Note the watch dog is a nasty lying organisation after a similar construct in NZ. These are sprouting like mushrooms in the west. They are specifically DEI friendly which is the cancer the old left are fighting.
Kate Hannah in NZ is hated by my leftie academic friends, her disinformation project which is evil.
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Evidence for this particular part of this gibberish stream?
 
Samson said:
What a disgusting rabid organisation. HopefullyMusk puts them in orbit and leaves them to rot.
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You and Musk share similar ideas about what it means to be a free speech advocate--free speech for me, utter annihilation (irrespective of the merits of the case) for wrongthink (in a totally unrelated matter) for thee.
 
HansMustermann said:
I'm also not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, yada, yada, but yeah, it seems pretty accurate. And I was already wondering about it essentially admitting that yeah, just as reported, if you scroll long enough and follow certain twits (bad pun intended), you will get those ads there.

About it being filed in Texas... I'm taking a wild GUESS that he WANTS it dismissed. It fits that pattern I've been mentioning of making grand claims and not following through.

BUT I still don't get it why specifically Texas. You'd think if he's doing it for publicity, he'd choose a state without an anti-SLAPP statute. A SLAPP (strategic lawsuit against public participation) is a frivolous lawsuit, typically exactly a defamation lawsuit, designed to just discourage someone from saying legitimate criticism, or else. Typically "else" meaning you'll bury them in legal fees even if they win.

But Texas does have an anti-SLAPP statute, in the form of the Texas Citizens Participation Act.

So... what exactly is Elon thinking, your guess is as good as mine.
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... that Texas' AG is on his side. And he's not exactly a dumbass for thinking that.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.go...n-media-matters-potential-fraudulent-activity
 
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