Cont: Luton Airport Car Park Fire part II

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Vixen said:
Nope. According to this lady from Wexford, the floor collapse happened almost immediately.

[qimg]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53319663957_99d71cb83e_z.jpg[/qimg]Screenshot 2023-11-09 172057 by Username Vixen, on Flickr

It is a screen shot as the link seems a bit dodgy.
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They could see the flames from the top of the steps up to the plane. This tells me they were getting off, down mobile steps. Her original story points out that they'd been sitting on the plane for 2 hours before that, which puts her seeing the fire and hearing collapse at somewhere around 11pm.

Your post is either colossally stupid or intended to deceive. Or a mix of both, I suppose.

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phiwum said:
If true, that would explain the arrest. Leaving the scene of a fire caused by your vehicle suggests a casual approach to responsibility.

However, where did you hear that?

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It's a joke going around. I wouldn't take it seriously. But there was a lag before they arrested the chap.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
I wasn't asking for requirements I was asking for examples of diesels converted to hybrids. I know you can converted a car to an ev by replacing 's lot of the internal, you suggested the vehicle in question was a conversion. Demonstrated it is possible and happening.

The link you provided last time had nothing to do with it. Don't you remember?
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I was in a hurry at the time and on my way out.
 
Vixen said:
Many a jester has been a prophet.
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You keep saying things like this when people point out your source are satire or nonsense or admit they're lying for entertainment.

It doesn't make your use of them any less stupid.
 
Vixen said:
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Lithium-ion fires throw flames and become so hot, it explains why the floor beneath Vehicle Zero collapsed from the heat intensity.
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You have zero evidence that this actually happened.
 
Vixen said:
The fire in the photograph appears to be confined to the front left of the car and towards the lower part. There is no smoke coming from the engine at the front or the fuel tank at the rear. The flames are orange and red with the grey smoke that is a classic of a lithium-ion fire. The driver was unable to extinguish it with a couple of fire extinguishers which would normally do the job, or failing that by the fire brigade who arrived very promptly - 'within eight minutes'.
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So this should rule out a hybrid, since the information I can find indicates that the batteries are under the seats in Land Rover vehicles.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
The question is what did you mean. The building withstood its contents being on fire for some hours, did it not?
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The Firefighter union guy who spoke to LBC Radio quoted fifteen minutes withstanding time but they had to retreat almost straight away.

I presume he was referring to how long they had to bring the temperature down and thus prevent further spread of the fire.
 
Vixen said:
There are youtube videos which explain how cheap and easy it can be to convert an ICE car to hybrid or EV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXCTXxL5lr0

How CHEAPLY Can You EV Convert Your Old Car?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYbMuHpa6wY

Simplest EV Conversion under $3000 - Convert Your Car in 3 Days!
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Both of those appear to be EV conversion. You have been speaking of taking a Range Rover and converting it to hybrid. It's not at all obvious that converting an ICE to hybrid is as simple as converting it to EV -- at least not to me.
 
Vixen said:
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Well, quite.

The building would have had a fire rating for how long it should withstand a fire in order to allow safe evacuation. I don't know how long that was. Nor do you. I don't know how long it actually withstood the fire. Nor do you. But that didn't stop you blithely telling us the building "burned down" in less than an hour. A complete invention of yours.

You've invented a story in your head and now expect reality to bend to your requirement. Reality demurs.
 
MarkCorrigan said:
Not only does this not answer the question asked, it's also a straight up lie. You claimed 700°C could not be replicated outside a lab. No qualifiers, no nothing. It was only after people started mocking this obvious idiocy that you attempted to warp your boneheaded statement into something far more specific to prevent yourself from being laughably wrong. It's not working Vixen. We were there for the initial incident. We remember it, so attempting to lie about it isn't going to work.
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Fair enough, but it was a silly claim in a different thread. It's not really worthwhile discussing it here.

Not everything that Vixen says is on-topic in every Vixen-created thread.
 
Foster Zygote said:
Please justify your eight minutes claim.

The report was that the fire service arrived about ten minutes after the initial call to 999. We have no idea how many minutes it took from the start of the fire to the first 999 call.

And even if they had arrived exactly eight minutes after the fire started, the A5 video proves that a car can be fully engulfed in flames in the space of just a few minutes.

Do you think that firefighters arriving on scene just run full tilt into a fire without carefully assessing the situation? It's not a cartoon like Paw Patrol. They don't just speed straight into the garage with the pumper truck and douse the fire with water. Even getting the hoses deployed and hooked up to the water source takes a few minutes.

As desperately as you want to deny it, the diesel Land Rover had plenty of time to erupt into a fire capable of spreading to other vehicles in the garage.
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An employed firefighter said it was eight minutes in the LBC broadcast, link provided.
 
Vixen said:
We have been given little to no information at all. But think about it. The fire was on 10 October and the fellow was arrested 23 October. A nice fortnight's holiday in the sun, perhaps?
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"Think about it" is code for make a little story up in your head, it seems.

You have absolutely no good reason to think there was any delay at all between the police deciding to arrest the driver and their doing so.
 
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