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Cont: General UK Politics IV - Rishi reprise

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Worm said:
Cummings is certainly doing his best, as always, to distance himself from any sort of responsiblity or culpability for events that he was involved in. He paints himself as the voice of reason and stability in a time of moronic chaos. The adult in the room.

He is none of those things, and he engineered the situations that he finds himself denouncing.

He only left government because he did one moronic thing too many and people wouldn't let it go. He was forced out, he didn't jump. Just like his buddy Boris, in denial right to the end, wailing that he had done nothing wrong.
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Spot on. Although it's worth adding that while his actions lead to his downfall they only did so because he didn't get on with Johnson's latest squeeze, they were the opportunity to oust him not the reason.
 
Worm said:
Cummings is certainly doing his best, as always, to distance himself from any sort of responsiblity or culpability for events that he was involved in. He paints himself as the voice of reason and stability in a time of moronic chaos. The adult in the room.

He is none of those things, and he engineered the situations that he finds himself denouncing.

He only left government because he did one moronic thing too many and people wouldn't let it go. He was forced out, he didn't jump. Just like his buddy Boris, in denial right to the end, wailing that he had done nothing wrong.
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Remember that this is someone who, when the Barnard Castle trip became public, held a press conference in the Rose Garden where he gave a highly implausible excuse, on which the remnants of the government's credibility hung, and he used that opportunity to point out that he'd predicted a Corona virus pandemic in his blog before it broke out. Except that it was a recent addition that he'd backdated. A pointless, self-aggrandizing lie that actually made him look worse, as by his (false) account, he knew about the risk but did nothing to stop it.


I rarely agree with Johnson, but his assessment of Cummings as being in an "orgy of narcissism" is spot on... Even though my irony meter did break.
 
This footage of the director of health protection's testimony has made me angry.

Angry at Matt Hancock for trying to stop her giving interviews in order to do her job of furthering public health at the start of a novel epidemic. And maybe even worse, discouraging her from speaking to him. And angry at the person who put Hancock anywhere near public health.

 
Rishi Sunak says he wants people to "give up the security of a regular paycheck and be comfortable with failing" to start up a company instead
 
Andy_Ross said:
Rishi Sunak says he wants people to "give up the security of a regular paycheck and be comfortable with failing" to start up a company instead
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He's also pontificating about AI and demonstrating his abject lack of understanding.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Rishi Sunak says he wants people to "give up the security of a regular paycheck and be comfortable with failing" to start up a company instead
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Who can't put down a few hundred thousand to get a business off the ground? And if it fails you may have to live in one of the family trusts' homes whilst you get back on your feet, and do some consultancy at your in-laws' businesses to make "ends meet" for a couple of years.
 
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Andy_Ross said:
Rishi Sunak says he wants people to "give up the security of a regular paycheck and be comfortable with failing" to start up a company instead
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One of my 'talking points' irl is about "Freedom to fail" and how this allows people with wealthy backgrounds, connections & even parents with a nice big home they can fall back to the chance to take chances & start businesses or even hold out for a better job while those who need to make next weeks rent or find a nice doorway have to take whatever ***** deadend job is offered.
 
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One of my 'talking points' irl is about "Freedom to fail" and how this allows people with wealthy backgrounds, connections & even parents with a nice big home they can fall back to the chance to take chances & start businesses or even hold out for a better job while those who need to make next weeks rent or find a nice doorway have to take whatever ***** deadend job is offered.
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Likewise
 
P.J. Denyer said:
One of my 'talking points' irl is about "Freedom to fail" and how this allows people with wealthy backgrounds, connections & even parents with a nice big home they can fall back to the chance to take chances & start businesses or even hold out for a better job while those who need to make next weeks rent or find a nice doorway have to take whatever ***** deadend job is offered.
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It's a notable point that so many of those people who built some major company 'from nothing' all had family and connections to fall back on. But it all plays into the narrative that if you are poor its your own fault and thus you aren't entitled to either sympathy or assistance.
 
Garrison said:
It's a notable point that so many of those people who built some major company 'from nothing' all had family and connections to fall back on. But it all plays into the narrative that if you are poor its your own fault and thus you aren't entitled to either sympathy or assistance.
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A narrative that goes back centuries, to the rise of a middle class of non-aristocratic, but wealthy people. Many generated their wealth by abuse of their workforce, who had minimal pay & no protections or the use of slavery and they wanted a means to demonise those people, so they did not need to feel guilty about their abuse of them. That narrative remains strong, especially amongst the Tories.
 
Braverman has formally pitched a ban on tents in urban areas — except on your own land or the back garden, as well as a fine for charities to stop them giving out tents to homeless people for free.

It's going to be in the new criminal justice bill as part of the new legislation to replace the 1824 Vagrancy Act, which criminalised rough sleeping and begging.
 
Braverman has formally pitched a ban on tents in urban areas, except on your own land or garden, as well as a fine for charities to stop them giving out tents to homeless people for free.

It's going to be in the new criminal justice bill as part of the new legislation to replace the 1824 Vagrancy Act, which criminalised rough sleeping and begging.
 
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Garrison said:
It's a notable point that so many of those people who built some major company 'from nothing' all had family and connections to fall back on. But it all plays into the narrative that if you are poor its your own fault and thus you aren't entitled to either sympathy or assistance.
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Absolutely, I worked in a couple of companies with loudly self proclaimed 'self made men' as owners. In both cases they'd inherited the core business.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Braverman has formally pitched a ban on tents in urban areas — except on your own land or the back garden, as well as a fine for charities to stop them giving out tents to homeless people for free.

It's going to be in the new criminal justice bill as part of the new legislation to replace the 1824 Vagrancy Act, which criminalised rough sleeping and begging.
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Because as any fule kno, the first step towards getting back on your feet after a period of homelessness is to acquire a criminal conviction. :mad:

At this stage it's not about governing, it's certainly not about fixing the mess they've created, it's about punishing people whose very existence makes the Tories look bad. :mad:
 
Andy_Ross said:
Braverman has formally pitched a ban on tents in urban areas — except on your own land or the back garden, as well as a fine for charities to stop them giving out tents to homeless people for free.

It's going to be in the new criminal justice bill as part of the new legislation to replace the 1824 Vagrancy Act, which criminalised rough sleeping and begging.
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It's performative evil now. All she needs is a moustache to twirl.
 
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