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Ed General Israel/Palestine discussion thread - Part 3

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The Great Zaganza said:
No Israel is acting extremely rational -
because the goal is not to find a peaceful solution, but to keep a permanent conflict going that will guarantee permanent money, arms and protection from the US.
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These events are about the only time US aid to Israel ever gets seriously questioned. I think rationally, even if loss of life is not reason enough, they would rather have fewer attacks on them and thus fewer questions about their responses.
 
gnome said:
These events are about the only time US aid to Israel ever gets seriously questioned. I think rationally, even if loss of life is not reason enough, they would rather have fewer attacks on them and thus fewer questions about their responses.
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By some... and then seriously increased anyway despite the questioning while the questioners get called anti-Semites... with the added other benefits of new regulations curtailing freedoms of speech and other such things.

Not to mention the windfall to Netanyahu with attention diverted away from his corruptions and failures.
 
Well, now you're replacing Israel's interests with Netanyahu's personal interests, and there's obviously cause for divergence there.
 
Leumas said:
And why not extend the Palestinians the same consideration...
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I truly doubt that you are as utterly ignorant about international politics as would be required to make this even remotely sincere.

Leumas said:
instead of doing genocide and ethnic cleansing and Sippenhaft on them to implement the Final Solution for the Settler Colonialism project?:confused:
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You like that rant. Too bad that it sure looks like it rests on highly dubious assumptions on your part, at best, rather than relying on reality. Given that it follows something that can only arise from extreme ignorance or trolling, you're making a strong case that it's not even worth engaging directly with.
 
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Aridas said:
I truly doubt that you are as utterly ignorant about international politics as would be required to make this even remotely sincere.

You like that rant. Too bad that it sure looks like it rests on highly dubious assumptions on your part, at best, rather than relying on reality. Given that it follows something that can only arise from extreme ignorance or trolling, you're making a strong case that it's not even worth engaging directly with.
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Thankyou for your emotive invectives... the emotions alone give me a warm feeling of satisfaction that you have no rational response to the FACTS that you cannot refute and dislike being revealed.

Thanks!!!:thumbsup:
 
BrettM said:
I presume you are being sarcastic.

She said, "this all happened because of those Hamas dogs”.

Not IDF dogs, not Israeli dogs, but Hamas. She blames Hamas for the death of her son. The person who tells her to shut up is presumably a Hamas sympathizer.
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Have you considered that the person who stopped her talking about Hamas in an area where Hamas operates might have been trying to protect her?
 
TofuFighter said:
Have you considered that the person who stopped her talking about Hamas in an area where Hamas operates might have been trying to protect her?
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Good point. I never thought of that. There are lots of things about this Gaza - Israel conflict that I will never undestand. I am reminded of a Shakesperian quote,

There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
 
Leumas said:
Thankyou for your emotive invectives... the emotions alone give me a warm feeling of satisfaction that you have no rational response to the FACTS that you cannot refute and dislike being revealed.

Thanks!!!:thumbsup:
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*shrug*

You are also still giving me no reason at all to believe that you're not trolling, given your choice of arguments and how poorly reflective of or based in reality they are.

Playing a complete fool just isn't impressive. Come on, you could at least try to make it mildly interesting if you're just going to spout BS? Otherwise, moving on.
 
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TofuFighter said:
Have you considered that the person who stopped her talking about Hamas in an area where Hamas operates might have been trying to protect her?
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BrettM said:
Good point. I never thought of that. There are lots of things about this Gaza - Israel conflict that I will never undestand. I am reminded of a Shakesperian quote,

There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
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That actually may well be more likely, for that matter. Hamas is, err, well known for cracking down on dissenting Palestinians, at last check. Palestinians are people, too, of course, with all that entails, including not really wanting that cracking down to happen.
 
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Aridas said:
*shrug*

You are also still giving me no reason at all to believe that you're not trolling, given your choice of arguments and how poorly reflective of or based in reality they are.

Playing a complete fool just isn't impressive. Come on, you could at least try to make it mildly interesting if you're just going to spout BS? Otherwise, moving on.
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All this emotive invectives are indicative of how much your words are self-projection and inability to accept the HARD FACTS of reality.

So thanks for letting me know....:thumbsup:
 
Both sides have people who want to kill the other, who are angry that there are people who want to kill them. Sadly, those are the people in charge.

Stuck in between are the people who I support, who just want to get on with their lives, will cooperate and live in peace.
 
Nessie said:
Both sides have people who want to kill the other, who are angry that there are people who want to kill them. Sadly, those are the people in charge.

Stuck in between are the people who I support, who just want to get on with their lives, will cooperate and live in peace.
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Some evidently do not want to... as shown in this video.

 
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Leumas, you keep posting extremely long videos (some over an hour in duration) and let me just make mention that I'm kinda busy (like probably most of us here), and if you could summarize these for us, it would allow proper discussions to progress. TIA.
 
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