Raw numbers are just data. Data should be available to all, to make their own conclusions.
Sure. Provided that all the relevant data is actually available. If only the data that's been effectively cherry-picked to support some position is available, complaints like webfusion's have some basis.
How much would you agree with the following statement?
Anyone of sound mind is responsible for their own actions.
Mostly. With that said, such neglects the circumstances and how those circumstances were shaped, though. "Personal responsibility" has often been used as a shield by those who set things up to happen so that only the person who euphemistically pulls the trigger actually faces accountability.
"Legitimate collateral damage", when the subject is the lives of innocent people. What a psychopathic thing to say.
That's war for you. The lives of innocent people potentially being "legitimate collateral damage" is actually to reduce the damage and death caused to innocent people in the big picture, either way. Otherwise, using innocent people as human shields in various manners would end up being acceptable war tactics. I find that to be the far worse and more psychopathic option of the two. Your opinion may differ, of course. *shrug*
There was a case, last year, where American police opened fire on a suspect with a gun. They hit bystanders behind the suspect. Is that "legitimate collateral damage"?
A bunch of cases like that, probably, given the US (and how crappy the aim of waaay too many cops is). I can't give sweeping generalities on the subject any more than I can give sweeping generalities about Gaza. That would be a matter to be determined case by case in the courts, much as there are real complaints that can be leveled at the US' courts, especially after the advent of qualified immunity in 1967.
Perhaps the individual police officer should not be held to account, but both to protect the policeman or woman and the victim, the system / government should be held to account.
In case of a person seeking to commit suicide and choosing to try to force a cop's hand to do it, rather than committing suicide by causing more direct self-harm? That's difficult to justify.
All to often each case is looked at individually and nothing is done to change the system and prevent the same thing happening again in future. That is what we are seeing with Israel / Palestine.
Broader scale is a different matter, yes, though. As poked at above in my response to ThatGuy11200, the circumstances and how the circumstances were shaped are very much things of relevance to provide context and the larger picture in play. It does get a bit more complicated for Israel/Palestine, though, quite frankly. These are different entities with different governments. How the Palestinian government chooses to act is not the responsibility of the Israeli government and how the Israeli government acts is not the responsibility of the Palestinian government. If one or both sides acts to stoke hatred as government policy, the options for what the other can do about it are rather limited.
There are some posting here who only look at the current events and believe the solution to violence is more and bigger violence. Who are implying that Gaza is committing suicide by police officer so killing Gazans is excusable and the person doing the killing should not be held to account.
War is horrible. A small bit of advice? Don't let the horrible stir your emotions to the point that rationality and comprehension is tossed out the window.
Whilst 'just following orders' is not a defence, but the system should be held to account. Others look at the repeated nature of events, that violence and more violence by both sides has failed, and perhaps a non-violent solution is needed.
Non-violent solutions can only work when both sides actually
want non-violent solutions, though. Terrible as it is, at many points in history, non-violent solutions have only become possible after truly horrifying amounts of violence. As much as we might love to jump ahead to the non-violence, it's not always an actual option.
