9/11: The Smoking Gun

I am not ashamed and it was almost certainly on WABC in NYC... which is a right leaning station. Not much to listen to radio wise... Air America is gone... so it's mostly right wing bloviators in my opinion. Obviously there is an audience for that.
 
Fonebone said:
Does that "radio talking-head" have a name? That statement is a blatent antisamnitic slur and
this "talking-head should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. You
practice your craft in New York City i believe. Name the radio station's call letters as well.
You should be ashamed to post this garbage statement to
a public forum with no evidence to back the "talking dimwit's" asinine tripe.
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Anybody want to tell him?

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Fonebone said:
Does that "radio talking-head" have a name? That statement is a blatent antisamnitic slur and
this "talking-head should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. You
practice your craft in New York City i believe. Name the radio station's call letters as well.
You should be ashamed to post this garbage statement to
a public forum with no evidence to back the "talking dimwit's" asinine tripe.
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Are Gotti's family Samnites?

Is there a reason you waited for over a year to get all false-outraged about this?

Who are you quoting as saying "talking dimwit"?

Finally, isn't the entire 'Truther' movement based on garbage statements without evidence?

fonebone: Rather than pretending to take umbrage with this comment, how about posting a detailed explanation of what you think about Yankee451's claims, with some evidence? Might be more productive.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
Are Gotti's family Samnites?
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John Gotti was born in NYC NY as were both of his parents.
His grandparents were born in San_Giuseppe_Vesuviano

https://en.wikipedia.org San_Giuseppe_Vesuviano
located 20 kilometers East of Naples Italy.
If you examine this map of ancient tribal territories,
expanded from you link,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samnites
Naples is located just to the left of the border of Roman(dark orange) and Samnitium(dark green) regions.
Technically, Naples is located on the Samnitium peninsula as shown on the map as a dark orange area separated from the Roman territory proper.

Samnitium, circa 400 BC, spanned from the Mediterranean Sea on the Western shore to the Adriatic sea on the eastern shore.
John Gotti's Grandparents were Samnitic.


Is there a reason you waited for over a year to get all false-outraged about this?
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Yes! I'm not generally a multi-tasker. I usually concentrate on one task at a time. Sometimes
a reply takes me over a year to create. Would you like see an example?



Who are you quoting as saying "talking dimwit"?
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JSanderO didn't supply the offenders name -- only the station's call letters
WABC NY

Finally, isn't the entire 'Truther' movement based on garbage statements without evidence?
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It might appear that way to the simple minded.. Let's find out right here in this thread. OK?
P.S. Welcome back to the forum.


`fonebone: Rather than pretending to take umbrage with this comment, how about posting a detailed explanation of what you think about Yankee451's claims, with some evidence? Might be more productive.
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Excellent Idea- Stick around--
Meanwhile I would suggest you read the thread to catch up
on current progress of the thread. Bic?
 
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Axxman300 said:
And this video dropped on Youtube two weeks ago illustrating how the towers collapsed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NkBfLBov5Q

Clevr animation and a clear explanation. Amazing what computer technology can do today. Makes me wonder why A&E Truth has yet to spend their money on actual simulations.:thumbsup:
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Best technical video yet on exactly how the WTC1 north tower was struck
by the Boeing 787
https://youtu.be/1NkBfLBov5Q?t=334
You debunkers are a HOOT


BTW could you kindly request a mod to remove your post and my reply and be moved to a new thread please.
It is Off Topic here. Thank you !
 
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bknight said:
It was a 767, regardless of what you or anyone else believes.
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Effective imediately
Sorry , One of your comrades just modified and updated the official narrative
detailing the physics of the WTC tower one, the North tower collapse.
The plane shaped hole was not large enough to convince skeptical peons and the
consultants suggested enlarging the scar by changing the plane from the Boeing 767
to a larger Boeing 787. Hence, all WTC and Pentagon planes will reflect this updated information
as seen in our latest video https://youtu.be/1NkBfLBov5Q?t=334
Note the shape and size of the Plane scar now spans from East wall to the West wall
updated video also reflects these changes.
Perhaps you missed the directive .
Sincerely -Winston Smith Assistant Flunky@ Ministry of Truth
 
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Fonebone said:
Effective imediately
Sorry , One of your comrades just modified and updated the official narrative
detailing the physics of the WTC tower one, the North tower collapse.
The plane shaped hole was not large enough to convince skeptical peons and the
consultants suggested enlarging the scar by changing the plane from the Boeing 767
to a larger Boeing 787. Hence, all WTC and Pentagon planes will reflect this updated information
as seen in our latest video https://youtu.be/1NkBfLBov5Q?t=334
Note the shape and size of the Plane scar now spans from East wall to the West wall
updated video also reflects these changes.
Perhaps you missed the directive .
Sincerely -Winston Smith Assistant Flunky@ Ministry of Truth
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October 2011
The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is a passenger aircraft made by Boeing. Its first flight took place on 15 December 2009. It was planned to be released earlier, but the first passenger flight of the airplane was in October 2011. Because of delays some airlines got their aircraft more than two years late.
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Not possible. the hole was large enough to be made by a 767, which it was of course.
Not anyone in my circle of debunkers.
 
JSanderO said:
Heard a radio talking head claim the collapse was caused by crappy insulation associated with a Gotti family contractor.
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Fonebone said:
Does that "radio talking-head" have a name? That statement is a blatent antisamnitic slur and
this "talking-head should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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A couple of things here, that would be obvious to any reasonable person, but for just as obvious a reason, I must spell out for you.


Referring to a Gotti family contractor is NOT antisamnitic, but anti-racketeering, anti-murder, anti-conspiracy to murder, anti-loansharking, anti-illegal gambling, anti-obstruction of justice, anti-bribery, and anti-tax evasion. Your misinterpretation of this straight-forward association is just as horribly misconstrued as your interpretations of the events on, and findings after, the 9/11 attacks.

It's also ironic that you would want someone prosecuted for your perceived slur, when you have done that (cast aspersions) in perpetuum to everyone you blame in your fantasy version of those attacks. You and logic/reason are diametrically opposed.
 
Myriad said:
Can you explain why the "NOSE OUT" in that image, and its shadow, are two orders of magnitude larger than the nose of the AGM86D missile shown in the photo in your previous post?
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This image is the North-East Bevel of the WTC2 South tower missile exit hole on the eighty first floor North-East bevel. Both WTC twin Towers had vertical structual steel columns at the corner bevels at every second floor. This structual vertical beam in the floor above the missile exit hole, the eighty second the floor, The floor height is exactly twelve feet
and minus the floor foot height of the horizontal plate steel spandrel belt leaves an eight foot opening for the missile to exit.



The AGM-86D missile is two foot six inches in diameter and twenty feet nine inches in length.


How do you calculate "two orders of Magnitude"larger exit hole versus the
missile glowing orange entrance hole?
 
Fonebone said:
John Gotti was born in NYC NY as were both of his parents.
His grandparents were born in San_Giuseppe_Vesuviano

https://en.wikipedia.org San_Giuseppe_Vesuviano
located 20 kilometers East of Naples Italy.
If you examine this map of ancient tribal territories,
expanded from you link,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samnites
Naples is located just to the left of the border of Roman(dark orange) and Samnitium(dark green) regions.
Technically, Naples is located on the Samnitium peninsula as shown on the map as a dark orange area separated from the Roman territory proper.

Samnitium, circa 400 BC, spanned from the Mediterranean Sea on the Western shore to the Adriatic sea on the eastern shore.
John Gotti's Grandparents were Samnitic.
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My point was that, until now, I was not aware that 'antisamnitism' was a thing. Perhaps I misunderstood: were you just joking?

Fonebone said:
Yes! I'm not generally a multi-tasker. I usually concentrate on one task at a time. Sometimes
a reply takes me over a year to create. Would you like see an example?
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Now I'm sure you're joking.


Fonebone said:
JSanderO didn't supply the offenders name -- only the station's call letters
WABC NY
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Sorry, but that doesn't answer my question. You put the words "talking dimwit" in quote marks, thus indicating this was a quote. Whom were you quoting?

Fonebone said:
It might appear that way to the simple minded.. Let's find out right here in this thread. OK?
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We already have: yankee451's insane theory is based on garbage statements without evidence.
In other threads, paloalto's feverish imaginings fall into the same category.
As do the entirely evidence-free claims by AE911T.
Returning to this thread, then, sure- let's see. Do you have any actual evidence of missiles? Debris, videos, radar, specifics of what type of missile, where they were fired from, who authorised the launch, under whose auspices, and the paper trail of those missiles, which are obviously now missing from the inventory. We have, after all, been waiting for over 20 years for this evidence: another day or so won't make much difference. Somehow, though, I doubt this thread will differ in that respect from any of the other 9/11 threads on this forum. Reams of bold assertions, phrased in sneering and condescending tones ("simple minded" being an obvious example), followed shortly thereafter by an ignominious retreat from the fray due to a total inability to provide a scrap of evidence to back up said claims.
So, yeah, let's see, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Fonebone said:
P.S. Welcome back to the forum.
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Thanks.

Fonebone said:
Excellent Idea- Stick around--
Meanwhile I would suggest you read the thread to catch up
on current progress of the thread. Bic?
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Catch up? Perhaps you should take your own advice. My first post in this thread was August 22nd 2022. Had you read the thread, you would have remembered that.
And I still don't need a biro, thank you.
 
Cosmic Yak said:
My point was that, until now, I was not aware that 'antisamnitism' was a thing. Perhaps I misunderstood: were you just joking?
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Originally Posted by Fonebone
Yes! I'm not generally a multi-tasker. I usually concentrate on one task at a time. Sometimes
a reply takes me over a year to create. Would you like see an example?


Now I'm sure you're joking.
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Joking ? No,I'm not joking
example....

criticism 10june 2012

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=8359984#post8359984
please fix it for us
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my reply 23 december 2021

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=10083704#post10083704

Sorry, but that doesn't answer my question. You put the words "talking dimwit" in quote marks, thus indicating this was a quote. Whom were you quoting?
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JSanderO



We already have: yankee451's insane theory is based on garbage statements without evidence.
In other threads, paloalto's feverish imaginings fall into the same category.
As do the entirely evidence-free claims by AE911T.
Returning to this thread, then, sure- let's see. Do you have any actual evidence of missiles? Debris, videos, radar, specifics of what type of missile, where they were fired from, who authorised the launch, under whose auspices, and the paper trail of those missiles, which are obviously now missing from the inventory. We have, after all, been waiting for over 20 years for this evidence: another day or so won't make much difference. Somehow, though, I doubt this thread will differ in that respect from any of the other 9/11 threads on this forum. Reams of bold assertions, phrased in sneering and condescending tones ("simple minded" being an obvious example), followed shortly thereafter by an ignominious retreat from the fray due to a total inability to provide a scrap of evidence to back up said claims.
So, yeah, let's see, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Thanks.

Catch up? Perhaps you should take your own advice. My first post in this thread was August 22nd 2022. Had you read the thread, you would have remembered that.
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And I still don't need a biro, thank you.
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Bic?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=6150137#post6150137
 
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