Cont: Musk buys Twitter II

Darat said:
As I've commented before he's coming at this as if he is someone new to the sector, he's going through all the easy and obvious ideas people in the past have had (and that have already failed to deliver their goals).

So far he isn't showing any signs of being able to bring anything new to the table.
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He is new to the sector. Well, he has been a user of Twitter for a long time but he is new to the idea of running a social media company.

Even so, it should be obvious even to him that paywalling Twitter will definitely kill it. It's obvious to me and I have never run a social media company either.
 
jeremyp said:
He is new to the sector. Well, he has been a user of Twitter for a long time but he is new to the idea of running a social media company.

Even so, it should be obvious even to him that paywalling Twitter will definitely kill it. It's obvious to me and I have never run a social media company either.
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Hang on a mo - are you saying he didn't do research and lot of due diligence before he bought Twitter.....
 
jeremyp said:
He is new to the sector. Well, he has been a user of Twitter for a long time but he is new to the idea of running a social media company.

Even so, it should be obvious even to him that paywalling Twitter will definitely kill it. It's obvious to me and I have never run a social media company either.
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Musk certainly has a large base of appeal and I can conceivably see how a 100% pay-to-access social media site with him as the central figure could be somewhat popular among some of the most insufferable people on the planet.

But he could have made such a thing from scratch for far less money than he's pissing away turning Twitter into a niche enclave of weirdos and scammers. A new social media site might be reasonably successful, if small, using this approach, but he'll never cover his buy-in costs of Twitter with this approach.

That said, don't think this will solve his bot problems. Musk fanbois, who seem to be mostly rubes obsessed with status symbols and the idea of willing themselves into wealth, strike me as an especially target rich environment for scammers. They'll pay a nuisance fee if it means getting access to some of the most gullible, personality-driven people on the planet
 
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Darat said:
As I've commented before he's coming at this as if he is someone new to the sector, he's going through all the easy and obvious ideas people in the past have had (and that have already failed to deliver their goals).

So far he isn't showing any signs of being able to bring anything new to the table.
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That's what he does with all his businesses, looks at issues that were solved years or decades ago, looks at the failed attempts at solutions and goes "yeah, that'll work for me!"
 
Darat said:
Hang on a mo - are you saying he didn't do research and lot of due diligence before he bought Twitter.....
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Don't be ridiculous. only a complete numbskull would waive due diligence before agreeing to buy a multi-billion dollar company....

.... what's that you say?
 
Darat said:
As I've commented before he's coming at this as if he is someone new to the sector, he's going through all the easy and obvious ideas people in the past have had (and that have already failed to deliver their goals).

So far he isn't showing any signs of being able to bring anything new to the table.
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And by "the sector" you can expand it to be anything financed by advertising.

I remember my teacher explaining the basic idea when I was in about year 5 or 6 after someone asked why free newspapers didn't charge.
 
My account has been suspended for a week along with a bunch of others for agreeing with comments on a gg news GB News tweet attacking calls for tactical voting against the Tories.
Apparently tactical voting should be illegal and is a direct attack on democracy.
I , along with a number of others expressed support for the Tories being smashed.

Apparently it counts as hate speech.
Calls for left wing extremists to be locked up and eradicated aren't hate though.
 
Andy_Ross said:
My account has been suspended for a week along with a bunch of others for agreeing with comments on a gg news GB News tweet attacking calls for tactical voting against the Tories.
Apparently tactical voting should be illegal and is a direct attack on democracy.
I , along with a number of others expressed support for the Tories being smashed.

Apparently it counts as hate speech.
Calls for left wing extremists to be locked up and eradicated aren't hate though.
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Look at it this way: you only got a week for "hate speech", because the lovely Musk still allows it.
 
Meh, I had been staying away from this thread after it moved to the next iteration, but, well...

BREAKING: Musk Fires Entire 'Election Integrity Team' at X

The headline might be misleading - the official X announcement is that they've cut about half, including the head, and intends to hire more for major elections.

Musk's response to that was -
Oh you mean the “Election Integrity” Team that was undermining election integrity? Yeah, they’re gone.
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So, yeah. I really, really don't trust Musk here, for some odd reason. I have a feeling that the EU won't like this move either.
 
whatever ability twitter had to influence an election, which wasn't insignificant imo, is pretty much gone
 
Suspension lifted on appeal after I pointed out that wanting to see a political party smashed at the polls isn't 'hate speech'
 
Musk's heel turn is really impressive. It's hard to believe that only a few years ago he was a media darling, a real life Tony Stark type figure.

Buying Twitter and running it into the ground seems to have rapidly accelerate his decline into a laughingstock at best, malicious moron at worst.


X CEO Linda Yaccarino was met with laughter and raised hands when she asked attendees, “Who wouldn’t want to see Elon Musk sitting by their side?” at the Code Conference on Wednesday.

“There may be a few show of hands to get the cute chuckles, but I would say the percentages in this room are about 99%,” she maintained in her continued defense of the contentious tech mogul.

Yaccarino went to bat for Musk a second time earlier in her conference appearance by addressing Yoel Roth’s surprise appearance just an hour prior. The former head of Twitter’s trust and safety department was interviewed by Kara Swisher on the same stage, and in jest, Roth said, “I think Twitter comms are really terrified that I’m here to trash the company right before their CEO gets on stage. I promise I’m not.”

But Roth did have a message for Yaccarino, warning against Musk: “You should be worried. I wish I had been more worried.”
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https://www.thewrap.com/linda-yaccarino-x-fires-back-yoel-roth-code-conference/
 
Darat said:
So far he isn't showing any signs of being able to bring anything new to the table.
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There is one new thing to twitter since Musk took over that is actually pretty good: Community Notes. It actually does a pretty good job of tagging BS.

The other changes he's made all seem to me to have been bad ideas, but Community Notes is actually pretty awesome.
 
When Twixter finally dies, what will all the journalists do? They'll have to practice journalism. They won't like that.
 
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