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Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

IsThisTheLife said:
It's likely that Dineage was assigned (put up to) the task of shot-gunning all the media platforms because she's at exactly the needed level of seniority - had she still been a Minister someone else would have been used.

Whatever, the UK gov. is clearly, pre-emptively toeing the water ahead of full-blown use of the powers its about to give itself to "crackdown on social media platforms".
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What a noxious mix of rape apologism, victim blaming and conspiratorial drivel some posters are spouting.
 
catsmate said:
What a noxious mix of rape apologism, victim blaming and conspiratorial drivel some posters are spouting.
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It is fair to point out that, currently there has been no conviction so that while what is coming out and what Brand had admitted to is seen by most as repulsive behaviour there is no current finding of criminality. It is very disappointing that some of those making the , wait and see, point are nevertheless presenting the government/left/woke/illegal hounding conspiracies to get him as a fact when similarly there had been no such finding.
 
Lothian said:
It is fair to point out that, currently there has been no conviction so that while what is coming out and what Brand had admitted to is seen by most as repulsive behaviour there is no current finding of criminality. It is very disappointing that some of those making the , wait and see, point are nevertheless presenting the government/left/woke/illegal hounding conspiracies to get him as a fact when similarly there had been no such finding.
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A criminal accusation does not halt an individual's ability to make a conclusion about what happened. If someone affirms that Brand committed a criminal act, they may be wrong, they may be irrational, but they are not under a moral obligation to draw no conclusion until a criminal court has had its say.
 
I Am The Scum said:
A criminal accusation does not halt an individual's ability to make a conclusion about what happened. If someone affirms that Brand committed a criminal act, they may be wrong, they may be irrational, but they are not under a moral obligation to draw no conclusion until a criminal court has had its say.
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I would argue that one shouldn't make any conclusion until/unless in full possession of the facts and statements from all sides. Furthermore, it's very a lazy public jury that finds a person, a priori, guilty based on their personal animus.

We seem to be more at the speculation stage right now (well I am at any rate) with a soupçon of schadenfreude on the side.
 
fair enough, he's complained of being falsely targeted by the deep state for being too right about everything and has been rallying the support of other alt-right adjacent sex criminals that, as it turns out, did exactly what they were accused of but didn't also like being accused and thought it was unfair. but we must acknowledge maybe it is a conspiracy to shut him up because he was right the whole time and was about to blow it all wide open.

so with that i'm firmly in the hope it's true camp.
 
The idea that "the establishment" would want to "silence" Brand is more of a joke than much of his comedy was, given how right wing our recent governments, i.e. since 2010 at least, have been. And then when you consider Brand's word salad style of blether youhave to wonder how much of it anyone actually understands.

Me? I'd let him blether away, as he doesn't really enhance the credibility of any "issue" he espouses.
 
So are all of the accusers still anonymous?

At the end of the day, the police and the prosecutors cannot do anything with mere media reports citing anonymous people as evidence. It's a start, but not enough bring formal charges.

Personally I think the accusations sound credible and I also understand why the victims would prefer to remain anonymous. But to prove a case like this you need someone to go on the record.
 
I love how the whole "Hunter Biden laptop" set were so convinced of all manner of wrongdoing committed by Joe Biden to the extent that they have no problem accusing him of any and everything, also a bit concerned that all these witness testimonies and first-person allegations against Brand have zero evidential basis whatsoever.

These are literally people who will assume that anyone they don't like was probably part of the whole Jeffrey Epstein thing, but when claims are put on a documentary about Brand will clutch at every straw ("Maybe the actor used to speak the words of a victim was actually voiced by an AI!??!?11?").
 
angrysoba said:
??? I am not sure what makes writing My Booky Wook particularly creepy. Although maybe the booky wook itself's contents are creepy. I hope never to know.
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It's just that it's an infantile title, and he's been accused of favouring young women.
 
Orphia Nay said:
It's just that it's an infantile title, and he's been accused of favouring young women.
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Okay, I see what you mean, but while the title sounds like something a five-year old might say, I don't think anyone is accusing him of being into children or aiming the book at that readership. Apparently it is pretty explicit and the title is presumably meant to reference his whimsical approach to life.

The guy is an idiot and probably a sex pest/predator, but the youngest he is being accused of having sex with is 16.
 
angrysoba said:
Okay, I see what you mean, but while the title sounds like something a five-year old might say, I don't think anyone is accusing him of being into children or aiming the book at that readership. Apparently it is pretty explicit and the title is presumably meant to reference his whimsical approach to life.

The guy is an idiot and probably a sex pest/predator, but the youngest he is being accused of having sex with is 16.
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The 16-year old says the age of consent should be raised, but I see your point too, however, what was this all about?

Manger Douse said:
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Pizza parlours have been shot up for a lot less
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