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Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

Trausti said:
The UK government is actively trying to deplatform him and deny his ability to make money; though he's been convicted of no crime. What the hell did he say that the UK government is so desperate to shut him up?
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The UK government doesn't care about him. They are not really a Government rather a collection of individuals who are doing whatever they can to try to gain popularity amongst the electorate. They are polling at 26% trailing the opposition by 18%. They have no plans or policies. Ministers have carte blanche to do whatever they can to save their seat in parliament. Here you have a minister hoping that by writing a letter which actually does nothing will allow them to take credit if rumble take action.
 
Is the reaction to Brand any different to that when other media celebrities had such serious allegations made against them? Celebrities who hadn't been spewing conspiracy theories and other crap? Suspension, which inevitably includes 'de-platforming' by removing them from whichever media role they currently occupy, and launching investigations is the usual reaction. And the government usually has something to say, especially the current one, if only because it's a handy distraction from their own scandals and **** ups. So it's hard to argue Brand is being specifically targeted because of his (bonkers but sadly commonplace) views.
 
Orphia Nay said:
I agree the government shouldn't force Rumble to demonetise Brand's videos.

It's up to Rumble to decide whether to or not, like YouTube decided.

But it's probably fair that the government asks Rumble whether Brand has prejudiced any potential court case or investigation or endangered or somehow caused a threat to the victims.
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I don't think so.

Not unless or until Brand is charged with something, surely, and even then I would imagine it is not a government matter, but a legal matter, and up to the police and courts to inform Brand, and potentially Rumble if a matter becomes sub-judice, rather than the government which is supposed to be independent of the legal system.
 
bluesjnr said:
Yes I did. What I didn't do was claim it had any relevance. I also never argued that my claim was correct and your counter claim was wrong.

This seems awfully important to you. Where is this concern about my simple, utterly irrelevant aside being wrong coming from?
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Merely commenting on something you posted.
 
Trausti said:
What's silly about all this, is that his promiscuity and behavior have been well known for a long time. But when he was in the lefty camp, it was all good. Now that he spouts opinions lefties don't like, he's going down.
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When was this?
 
MarkCorrigan said:
No, not really. There's a difference between being a slimeball and being a sex offender, even alleged.

Also a large number of people didn't like him even when he was a "lefty".
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As far as I am aware he was never a "lefty", I'd say the best way to describe his old persona was apolitical but with political opinions.
 
Trausti said:
The UK government is actively trying to deplatform him and deny his ability to make money; though he's been convicted of no crime. What the hell did he say that the UK government is so desperate to shut him up?

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Source: https://twitter.com/rumblevideo/status/1704584929026216118
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That's not the government, it's a parliamentary committee - quite different things.
 
Mogg on his TV news show is saying the FCA is a "useless quango" and they are "useless Muppets" it should be scrapped.

Who could possibly benefit from getting rid of the Financial Conduct Authority? The Tory MP beneficiary of a fund management firm maybe?
 
This looks really bad for the police

https://news.sky.com/story/three-qu...tal-health-worsened-by-police-report-12965587

"Three quarters of rape and sexual assault survivors say mental health worsened by police - report
One survivor told researchers they are "more afraid of the police than being raped again" as 56% of respondents to a survey said they are unlikely to report another rape to officers.


That makes is look like justification for the women who went to the media, rather than the police, about Brand. But, so they feel any better? Is their mental health better, or worse? Would they go back to the media again?

It is one thing talking to someone else about being the victim of a crime, it is another to make an accusation to someone's face.
 
Yeah, there are real reasons why victims of rape and sexual assault are often reluctant to report these crimes to police.

They may feel like they need to be a “perfect victim” or else they may end up being the one “on trial”. The police also tend to be a male-dominated profession.

Someone like Brand doesn’t lurk in dark alleys hoping to to ambush his victims. Most rapes don’t happen that way. His victims therefore are likely to be women who know him or approached him of their own accord. So it’s harder to go to the police when you feel like you’re not a “perfect victim” because you’re going to have to answer difficult questions like why did you go home with him in the first place? I wouldn’t do that if I were in your shoes. And then the victim has to justify every decision they made leading up to being raped or assaulted.
 
it doesn't get old watching right wingers get all bent out of shape, again, because a guy said something they agree with once and now they obligated to defend them no matter what is accused of rape, again. it's becoming kind of a regular occurence.

anyway, hopefully he's accused of more crimes
 
I am a big fan of British panel shows and comedians. I first came across Russel Brand when he was a contestant on one of the early Big Fat Quizzes. And until Mel B featured in a later edition of that program, I thought he was the worst contestant, his comedy being the equivalent of an attention-starved adolescent schoolboy acting up. I was rather surprised to see him later on various talk shows and panel programs trying to play a new-age guru to peddle his "deep thoughts". His earlier schtick was to put on a persona of edginess that just fell flat and then he tried to mould himself into some kind of youth leader....first asking them to boycott elections and then back tracking. I think right now, he is the kind of person that those like Joe Rogan, Bill Mahr and others might coddle.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Mogg on his TV news show is saying the FCA is a "useless quango" and they are "useless Muppets" it should be scrapped.

Who could possibly benefit from getting rid of the Financial Conduct Authority? The Tory MP beneficiary of a fund management firm maybe?
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Possibly you are in the wrong thread...
 
Trausti said:
The UK government is actively trying to deplatform him and deny his ability to make money; though he's been convicted of no crime. What the hell did he say that the UK government is so desperate to shut him up?

[qimg]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6fm3rGXcAAxsGt?format=jpg&name=small[/qimg]

Source: https://twitter.com/rumblevideo/status/1704584929026216118
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Tortious interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when one person intentionally damages someone else's contractual or business relationships with a third party, causing economic harm.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference
 
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