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Skeptical homeschooling

sistathinker

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So, I'm childless for now, but I'm planning to not be forever.

I'm dead set against public schooling, and I can't really find secular private schooling in my area.

Anyone got any resources they'd care to share?

Thanks!

ST
 
I'd worry about how such a thing would affect the child in terms of having friends, dealing with other kids, sharing the same interests and crazes etc. How would you deal with that?
 
Eh. I went to public school for most of my life, and managed to turn out a complete outcast anyway.

What is it in particular you have against public school?
 
I'm afraid this may turn into a debate over the actual merits of homeschooling, rather than a response to your request for resources.

What exactly are you looking for? Your state or province should have a list of accredited private schools, usually including how to work with your school district to establish a customized program. There will probably also be correspondence options available.

I'm not sure the forum can help without knowing about at least your locality and whether you'll be schooling a primary or secondary student.
 
ah! don't get Beth & I started again! I'm still worn out! And that was, what?, two years ago?
 
Sista - your kids NEED to be in school - because with your guidance and through personality, they need to be opening up cans of skeptical whoopass on their classmates.

Don't deny other kids the opportunity to interact with YOUR kids!

-AH.
 
Blue2 will be in public school up to grade 5, then we'll see. The local elementary school staff is amazing. We are supplementing at home using the Comprehensive Curriculum books from American Education Publication. The Pre-K, K, 1 and 2 books are all very well laid out. Mr. Blue, who was a teacher, is very happy with them. You might also want to review Hirsch's series on 'What Every (Kindergartner/First Grader, etc.) Needs to Know'.
 
ah! don't get Beth & I started again! I'm still worn out! And that was, what?, two years ago?


Not quite. I haven't been here that long. Must of been last year. But I don't have time for debating at the moment, so you'd win by default. :D
 
This is probably what you're looking for: Unschoolers Unlimited
Lots of links and info, no religious stuff.

Oooh, but there's some wacky stuff there, don't you think? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure public education doesn't have a course called "suicide education".
 
I have two kids both are being homeschooled. We have a good secular homeschool group in St. Louis which provide alot of time for social interaction with other kids. It does require my wife to spend alot of time developing lessons and driving the kids to classes.
 
Not quite. I haven't been here that long. Must of been last year. But I don't have time for debating at the moment, so you'd win by default. :D
Last Fall. I think we covered just about everything. Where's my dead horse?
 
We have a good secular homeschool group in St. Louis which provide alot of time for social interaction with other kids.

From what I've seen in my own community, this is key. Not necessarily the interaction but for the pooling of resources. No need to keep reinventing the wheel.
 
From what I've seen in my own community, this is key. Not necessarily the interaction but for the pooling of resources. No need to keep reinventing the wheel.

Correct.

To partcipate in the group you need to offer some sort of group class.
 
So, I'm childless for now, but I'm planning to not be forever.
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As the voice of experience: Wait until you have kids. Then try looking, because...

1) One of the best places to find information is where other parents congregate (like at playgrounds, parenting groups, etc). Since this forum in pretty much international, you will get all sorts of varying information.

2) If your child is not yet born, you still have at least five years to go... in that time period the resources you get now may disappear, and others may reappear.

3) Sometimes things happen that you do not anticipate... like having a kid with medical issues, and as we have found out over the past 17 years, our oldest has some serious learning disorders.

4) Other things happen, like you move... or one parent is no longer there, which make homeschooling more difficult (one thing my hubby and I have in common is that we both had a parent die while we young).

I live in an area with lots of secular homeschooling. There are homeschooling groups, companies that cater to homeschoolers and even homeschooling resource centers provided by public school districts (including online courses for high school students). Since I know a few kids that are homeschooled (including the kids of the director of a speech therapy clinic my oldest went to) I do have a couple ideas:

1) There are "children's fairs" or "educational fairs" held in our area about once a year... there may be something like that in your area. You need to check out the local parenting ads in your local newspaper or some local parenting publication (the latter are often given away free at maternity stores, kid clothing stores, etc.). The last time I went to one over a decade ago there were several companies with booths promoting their homeschooling materials.

2) There are a couple of newsgroups for homeschooling, you can check out their archives on http://groups.google.com/group/misc.education.home-school.misc ... and there are some others (in the groups.google.com the search on the world "homeschooling" included a private group on "pagan homeschooling"!).

3) One very reason some children are homeschooled is because they are serious musicians. These are kids (some as young as 9 years old) who practice several hours a day, and cannot schedulre regular school attendence. I've seen a musical performance of a homeschool group that was incredible... so you might see if music stores or teachers know of any of these groups, and what are their resources.

4) Often in metropolitan areas you will have education specialty stores. In this area there is a "science" store and a "Math" store. These are places that cater to homeschoolers.

Good luck... I personally would not homeschool my kids. One of my jobs as a parent is to make sure they get to bed alive --- I'm not so sure that would happen if I had them home all day.

Oh, I must add this anecdote: Even though I had one kid in the special ed. preschool and realized how little I knew about children and child development, I got an additonal lesson with fair normal child #2. When the kids were little I took them to a "parent/baby/toddler" swimming class. While other parents were getting their toddlers to jump in the pool, blow bubbles and actually do stuff... my then two-year-old would not do ANYTHING for me! So when he was three years old I enrolled him in the pool's class for three-years-old (one teacher for three kids). It turns out my son would do anything the teacher asked and actually learned how to swim!

That is when I learned that my kids really don't want to listen to me... so I've limited my "teaching" moments. That even included paying for sewing lessons, even though that is something I could teach them. Last night my offer to help my 6th grade daughter with fractions was rejected forcedly.

They are kind of like husbands that way. I have often found that the best way to tell my husband something is to have someone else tell him (the shining example of that was when he insisted that all walls have to be painted with flat paint, while I thought semi-gloss would be better in the bathroom... the clerk at the hardware store's paint counter told him that the flat paint he was buying for the bathroom was not a good choice, so he relented --- I did my "told you so" dance where he could not see me).
 
Wow! So much great stuff!

AntiqueHunter- you're right... my kids are going to be little Atheist, skeptic hellraisers. I'd like to give them the option at high school to continue at home or enter an approved academy. But I do plan on teaching them argumentation (I was a rather successful debater through high school and college) from age 7 or 8 onward.

And HydroCyan, my hubby is a rather gifted musician himself. We knew we would get on when he said he wanted to have kids and homeschool them so they could concentrate on music and science studies. I feel that way about every other topic, so we're happy. You should offer a pamphlet on husband training... I'm still learning in that respect!
 
And if they turn out to be bad at and dislike music and science?

You know, I agree with the other poster - wait until you have kids before you start planning out their lives. They may be nothing like you think. They develop strong personalities very fast and tell YOU what they want. You can't go into it deciding what they will be like.

If they turned out to be Christians but very caring compassionate christians with lovely parters, good jobs and very happy - wouldn't that be enough?

I know some kids whose parents had strong views on what they should and shouldn't think and they are weird kids. Not at all confident and don't fit in easily. I'm not saying that's what you are like or that's what will happen but you need to be careful planning this stuff.
 
I agree with Splossy, let your kids decide thier direction the only thing you can do is provide guidance and love.
 
A poster named TQuilla, who mostly lurks and I think has only posted a couple of times, homeschools her daughter. Try sending her a PM as she may have information.

Shame I didn't meet you sistathinker at TAM4, TQuilla was there with her husband and I could have introduced you to her.
 

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