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Donald Trump's bottomless pit of legal problems.

dann said:
Can somebody post a list of those other threads while we're still on page one of this one?
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NY v Trump:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=365612

Mar-A-Lago Document Indictment:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366542

Jack Smith election interference Indictment:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367487

Georgia v Trump:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367699
 
acbytesla said:
I'm not convinced that is the reason. Even Trump understands he can't take it with him.
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I'm not convinced he does recognise his own mortality. Even if he does I'd half expect him to order the whole building sealed in concrete with him sitting for Eternity on his golden 'throne' (surrounded by boxes of classified documents).
 
Armitage72 said:
Republicans using music without permission during ads, rallies, and other events happens so often that it's easily forgotten now. My favorite was when Scott Walker used a Dropkick Murphys song at the Iowa Freedom Summit in 2015 and their response was "Please stop using our music in any way…we literally hate you!!!"

Personally, I wonder if it's because they assume that the record companies own the songs and as corporations, they'll support the Republicans and let them do whatever they want.
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To quote the inhabitants of the Satellite of Love, "they just didn't care".

acbytesla said:
No, that's not it.

They will do whatever they want until somebody stops them. They simply count on not being stopped. At least for a while. The law requires the owners of trademarks and copyrights to protect their own copyrights. So one must take actions to get them someone to stop which begins with a cease and desist letter. You must do that before you file suit.

Then they'll just infringe on somebody else's copyrights and trademarks.

Do you know who the biggest thieves of copyrights and trademarks are? Christian organizations. That's because the copyright owner doesn't want to be seen as against Christianity.
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Though organisations are beginning to push back against christian copyright thiefs and plagiarisers in a big way the last few years. The creators and parent corporations have copped on to how damaging the christers twisting their products is.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
I'm not convinced he does recognise his own mortality. Even if he does I'd half expect him to order the whole building sealed in concrete with him sitting for Eternity on his golden 'throne' (surrounded by boxes of classified documents).
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With a pile of hamberders
 
P.J. Denyer said:
I'm not convinced he does recognise his own mortality. Even if he does I'd half expect him to order the whole building sealed in concrete with him sitting for Eternity on his golden 'throne' (surrounded by boxes of classified documents).
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There was a one-shot villain in the Avengers comic book decades ago, a rich arrogant businessman/engineer who learned he was terminally ill and decided there was no point in the world continuing to exist if he wasn't in it. He built a device that would destroy the world when his heart stopped beating. I'm not having a problem picturing Trump trying to Push The Button if had learned he was dying while he was in office.
 
Armitage72 said:
There was a one-shot villain in the Avengers comic book decades ago, a rich arrogant businessman/engineer who learned he was terminally ill and decided there was no point in the world continuing to exist if he wasn't in it. He built a device that would destroy the world when his heart stopped beating. I'm not having a problem picturing Trump trying to Push The Button if had learned he was dying while he was in office.
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I don't think Trump understands there even is a world outside of himself. To him, his own death means the end of the universe automatically because nothing exists but him.

As for his "bottomless pit" of legal problems, do have faith: it's not bottomless, and eventually he's going to land with a very hearty thump! There will be considerable splash. Those nearest will be thoroughly drenched, and serve them right.
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
Though organisations are beginning to push back against christian copyright thiefs and plagiarisers in a big way the last few years. The creators and parent corporations have copped on to how damaging the christers twisting their products is.
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Still the copyright and trademark owners are constantly playing whack a mole with Christian Organizations. There are 100,000+ of them. First you have to find out they're doing it and then you have to send them the cease and desist letter, then you have to sue them after they fail to promptly stop.

With the exception of Donald Trump, nobody grifts as much and as often as Christian organizations.
 
Armitage72 said:
There was a one-shot villain in the Avengers comic book decades ago, a rich arrogant businessman/engineer who learned he was terminally ill and decided there was no point in the world continuing to exist if he wasn't in it. He built a device that would destroy the world when his heart stopped beating. I'm not having a problem picturing Trump trying to Push The Button if had learned he was dying while he was in office.
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That was a main plot point of the movie "Tenet," and one of the few things I understood in the whole thing.
 
By the way, there is another area that Trump may face legal issues...

From: Politico
Special counsel Jack Smith’s probe of efforts by Donald Trump and others to subvert the 2020 election remains ongoing — with at least one interview this week that focused on fundraising and spending by Trump’s political action committee... The special counsel has long been thought to be scrutinizing whether Trump or his PAC violated federal laws by raising money off claims of voter fraud they knew were false.

I certainly do hope this results in indictments against Trump... at least 9... I'd like to see the total bumped up to triple digits.
 
There is a very clear bottom, in that Trump is a rather obviously unfit man pushing up on 80 years of age, and sooner or later he's going to die and be unburdened by any legal woes.

I don't mean this entirely as snark, there's a very real ticking clock for anyone trying to take action against Trump. Criminal charges end at death, and some kinds of civil cases may as well, IANAL. Anyone with a legal claim against Trump probably ought to take action sooner rather than later.
 
Armitage72 said:
Republicans using music without permission during ads, rallies, and other events happens so often that it's easily forgotten now. My favorite was when Scott Walker used a Dropkick Murphys song at the Iowa Freedom Summit in 2015 and their response was "Please stop using our music in any way…we literally hate you!!!"

Personally, I wonder if it's because they assume that the record companies own the songs and as corporations, they'll support the Republicans and let them do whatever they want.
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There was a court case where a politician used a song, and the artist said no you can't. (The pol paid the standard song rental fee, so to speak.)

Anyway, the court ruled the purpose of copyright was to earn you money, not not earn you money lording over it.

AFAIK this hasn't gone to the supreme court.
 
TurkeysGhost said:
There is a very clear bottom, in that Trump is a rather obviously unfit man pushing up on 80 years of age, and sooner or later he's going to die and be unburdened by any legal woes.

I don't mean this entirely as snark, there's a very real ticking clock for anyone trying to take action against Trump. Criminal charges end at death, and some kinds of civil cases may as well, IANAL. Anyone with a legal claim against Trump probably ought to take action sooner rather than later.
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And they are starting to line up to do it. I had expected this 18 months ago if not sooner.
Rumors are that criminal indictments will soon include Arizona and possibly Michigan.

Trump is the most corrupt and criminal President in US history. It's catching up to him. But his tactics to delay and obstruct justice has served him well. Justice for his victims is slow to come and there is a good chance the turd will die preventing actual justice.
 
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Beerina said:
There was a court case where a politician used a song, and the artist said no you can't. (The pol paid the standard song rental fee, so to speak.)

Anyway, the court ruled the purpose of copyright was to earn you money, not not earn you money lording over it.

AFAIK this hasn't gone to the supreme court.
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Sounds like a moronic decision.

The purpose of copyrights is and always has been ownership of a piece of property. Just like any other piece of property the owner gets to decide how it is used and how much is paid for it. He has every right to tell a tampon company they may not use their song in an advertisement.
 
acbytesla said:
And they are starting to ine up to do it. I had expected this 18 months ago if not sooner.
Rumors are that criminal indictments will soon include Arizona and possibly Michigan.

Trump is the most corrupt and criminal President in US history. It's catching up to him. But his tactics to delay and obstruct justice has served him well. Justice for his victims is slow to come and there is a good chance the turd will die preventing actual justice.
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To be fair, the process is the punishment. Spending years dragging out criminal proceedings is no picnic. Sure, it beats serving time, but it still sucks. These cases seem highly likely to occupy Trump's attention and drain his financial resources exactly when he needs both to try to win the Presidency, assuming he's not successful in entirely delaying them to after the election.

The civil side of things seems more pressing. If you're someone who could conceivably be owed money by Trump for some reason or another, best to get a judgement in while he's still alive and there's still any money to take.
 
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