Cont: Today's Mass Shooting (part 3)

[Darat]

I believe that it is highly probable both the police and the media know more details about the shooters other than "male."

Are you retracting your claim that the police and the media know the identity of the shooter?

Just because the witnesses/victims at the punk party refuse to cooperate with police doesn't mean other people will not. Even in the violent ****hole that is Minneapolis, people are going to pay attention to gunshots and where/who they came from. I'm confident that not everyone who was witness to the shooting are complete regressive retards that refuse to cooperate with police when they are investigating a murder-mass shooting because black lives matter. The chances of no one cooperating are extremely small, in my opinion.

Have you any evidence that anyone is not co-operating with the police?
Have you any evidence that there are people you describe as "complete regressive retards that refuse to cooperate with police when they are investigating a murder-mass shooting because black lives matter" who are not cooperating with the police?

Same with the media. If they are not asking more details about two murderers who are on the loose, they are negligent.

How do the media know who to ask about?

 

[Bogative]

Are you retracting your claim that the police and the media know the identity of the shooter?

Poor choice of words on my part. Instead of identity, I should have said description.

Have you any evidence that anyone is not co-operating with the police?

Linked earlier, "In a command staff meeting Monday morning, O'Hara reportedly told his supervisors that victims of the Nudieland shooting have not been cooperative with investigators."

Have you any evidence that there are people you describe as "complete regressive retards that refuse to cooperate with police when they are investigating a murder-mass shooting because black lives matter" who are not cooperating with the police?

Yes, the victims who are refusing to cooperate with police.

How do the media know who to ask about?

What??? The media are interviewing people who were shot by someone. I'm going out on a limb here, but surely they know that guns don't shoot people. It takes someone to pull the trigger.

 

[Bogative]

Since the local media and law enforcement couldn't be bothered with providing a description of the two "males" involved in the hate crime mass shooting, I will post up the other 3 mass shootings that occurred over the weekend.

4 wounded in Chicago. 2 "gunmen" fired into a crowd injuring 4 teenagers.
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/lawndale-mass-shooting

4 wounded in Norfolk, Virginia. Multiple shooters opened fire in a 7-Eleven parking lot.
https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/4-shot-overnight-in-norfolk-3-in-serious-condition/

5 wounded in Louisville, Georgia. Drive-by.
https://www.wrdw.com/2023/08/21/5-hospitalized-after-drive-by-shooting-louisville-no-suspects-yet/


10 mass shootings
5 killed
55 wounded
0 Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremist-White Supremacist on the trigger.

 

[Bogative]

Killin' sometime while we await police or media description of the 2 alleged anti-LGBTQ+ hate crime mass shooting suspects.


1 killed, 3 wounded in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. This drive-up shooting is being described as a "retaliation shooting." A nondescript individual pulled up in and exited from a dark-colored Chevy Malibu and opened fire on 50-100 people exiting a post-funeral luncheon for a man who was killed earlier in the week.
This reporter found it necessary to describe the car but not the shooter. I wonder why?
https://www.fox29.com/news/deadly-r...ves-neighbors-shaken-wheres-the-value-of-life

1 killed, 3 wounded in Denison, Texas. Drive-by. The deceased is a black female. The shooter, who has been arrested, is a juvenile. The lack of national and worldwide outrage indicates that the shooter is not of the white supremacist variety.
https://www.kxii.com/2023/08/21/woman-killed-drive-by-shooting-denison/

 

[Bogative]

Still waiting for a description of the 2 anti-LGBTQ+ hate crime mass shooters. So in the meantime.

1 killed, 3 wounded in Valley Stream, New York. A 20-year-old male was killed, two 17-year-olds and a 12-year-old were the victims. A local venue was holding an illegal party that was illegally selling alcohol celebrate the end of summer. The neighbors aren't surprised because of all the riffraff at the venue constantly.

The diligent media let us know that the shooter was a male and nothing more.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/...aixd7ipF26bwblYvLN30-1692734896-0-gaNycGzNCqU

 

[Bogative]

Still no description of the anti-LGBTQ+ hate crime mass shooters in Minneapolis.

1 killed, 3 wounded, including a 15-year-old, in Chicago, Illinois. Not many details available as of now.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...0230823-behg776nhfd3tm53yiq262ufry-story.html

 

[Thermal]

Still no description of the anti-LGBTQ+ hate crime mass shooters in Minneapolis.

Dude, what do you expect them to give out? Do you think they are announcing "Be on the lookout and alert authorities to sightings of any BLACK MALES"?

I mean, if there is nothing distinctive in the description to differentiate the suspects from thousands of other people, it's pretty pointless, innit?

They say "males" so they don't have to call them "it"or whatever. But they are not announcing "BOLO for Males, but we aren't saying black males, ya feel me?"

 

[Bogative]

Dude, what do you expect them to give out? Do you think they are announcing "Be on the lookout and alert authorities to sightings of any BLACK MALES"?

I mean, if there is nothing distinctive in the description to differentiate the suspects from thousands of other people, it's pretty pointless, innit?

They say "males" so they don't have to call them "it"or whatever. But they are not announcing "BOLO for Males, but we aren't saying black males, ya feel me?"

Why do you assume they are black? That's the raycismz.

Just kidding, you are probably correct, statistically speaking.

 

[Darat]

Poor choice of words on my part. Instead of identity, I should have said description.


Linked earlier, "In a command staff meeting Monday morning, O'Hara reportedly told his supervisors that victims of the Nudieland shooting have not been cooperative with investigators."

Yes, the victims who are refusing to cooperate with police.

Can you provide any evidence for your claim about these victims?

What??? The media are interviewing people who were shot by someone. I'm going out on a limb here, but surely they know that guns don't shoot people. It takes someone to pull the trigger.

This has no bearing on whether or not the media are withholding information about the description of the shooters.

 

[Darat]

Why do you assume they are black? That's the raycismz.

...snip...

Because we know that is why you believe that they have not been "identified" by the police nor the media. As to why the media and the police are withholding information you've not given us any reason why you believe that to be so.

 

[Thermal]

Why do you assume they are black? That's the raycismz.

Just kidding, you are probably correct, statistically speaking.

Dude, I agree with your broad meta point in this thread. Trumpsters and white supremacists aren't the ones putting American bodies in bags, black men are, and in staggering proportions. It's pretty damned (paternally) racist to sweep black violence under the rug as "them blacks and their gangs", when the overwhelming amount of stories do not mention gangs at all. Agreed.

But your taking it way past that. There is literally no point to saying police are looking for a black man, any more than saying they are looking for a white man. It's not meaningfully narrowing the suspect field down. You need something unique. Whether they are black or white or male or female can help eliminate suspects, but it's too vague to help single one out from millions of others.

So while I get your meta point, this one falls skeptically flat. It makes perfect sense that police don't describe in useless broad terms. "Tall male" doesn't single a suspect out either. "Suspect has large swastika tattoo on his face" is going to single someone out of a crowd.

 

[Bogative]

Can you provide any evidence for your claim about these victims?

Already quoted and linked.

This has no bearing on whether or not the media are withholding information about the description of the shooters.

It's just a hunch, but my belief is at least some of the reporters asked the victims and/or witnesses what the shooters looked like hoping they would give a description of someone who may fit their(the media) description of what they believe to be a MAGA type or a white supremacist.

Could I be wrong? Absolutely. But from my experience, there is a definite pattern of media hiding inconvenient facts when it doesn't fit the narrative.

 

[Bogative]

Because we know that is why you believe that they have not been "identified" by the police nor the media. As to why the media and the police are withholding information you've not given us any reason why you believe that to be so.

Yes, that is why. I believe the shooters are black. I may be wrong, but I highly doubt it. If you're willing to make a friendly bet, and I am wrong, you choose my avatar for one month. If I'm right, I choose yours for 2 days. Game?


The police and media are withholding information because the shooters are black and they are a victim class that needs to be protected, for some reason.

Just to clarify, I'm not expecting "identities" as of yet, just descriptions other than "male."

 

[Bogative]

So while I get your meta point, this one falls skeptically flat. It makes perfect sense that police don't describe in useless broad terms. "Tall male" doesn't single a suspect out either. "Suspect has large swastika tattoo on his face" is going to single someone out of a crowd.

There are broader implications to not describing suspects in greater detail. In the last few months, I have heard four separate alternative, but prominent, left-wing political commentators claim that white people commit the most mass shootings.

Charlemagne the God brought it up in his interview with Larry Elder recently. Cenk Uyger of the Young Turks, David Pakman and Kyle Kulinski have all 3 repeated the lie that most mass shooters are white within the last few months on their shows.

Hell, earlier today a fellow forum a member accused me of posting only mass shootings committed by black people. After 2 years of focusing on this subject, on this board, supposed "skeptics" still believe the lie.

The police and media not describing the suspects of a mass murderer in greater detail is doing a disservice to everyone.

 

[marting]

Mass shooting in Orange County, California.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/breaking-cooks-corner-shooting-multiple-30774795
Gunfire erupted at the Cook's Corner establishment in Orange County, California, after a shooter - believed to be a retired law enforcement official - went on the rampage

Recent reports: at least 5 people confirmed dead at the well known biker bar.

 

[Bogative]

It looks like we may have a couple of white male shooters to post on the board. Both of them appear to be domestic violence related.

3 killed, 5 wounded in Orange County, California. A retired LEO opened fire after a "domestic dispute" with his wife at a popular motorcyclist hang out. Still early, not a lot of details. LEOs arrived on scene and killed the shooter.
https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/...ting-at-historic-biker-bar-in-trabuco-canyon/


4 wounded in Howland, Ohio. All 4 were LEO. A man barricaded himself in a house with family members. He was shot after a 10 hour standoff and a shootout with LEO.
https://www.wytv.com/news/local-news/police-investigating-2-separate-scenes-in-trumbull-county/


Still no description of the LGBTQ+ hate crime mass shooters in Minneapolis.

 

[Darat]

Already quoted and linked.

No you haven't your link was supporting your claim that victims were not co-operating with the police. The other claims you made about the victims were not addressed by that link.

It's just a hunch, but my belief is at least some of the reporters asked the victims and/or witnesses what the shooters looked like hoping they would give a description of someone who may fit their(the media) description of what they believe to be a MAGA type or a white supremacist.

Based on zero evidence.

Could I be wrong? Absolutely. But from my experience, there is a definite pattern of media hiding inconvenient facts when it doesn't fit the narrative.

How is this coordinated conspiracy across all media and this police department maintained?

 

[Darat]

Yes, that is why. I believe the shooters are black. I may be wrong, but I highly doubt it. If you're willing to make a friendly bet, and I am wrong, you choose my avatar for one month. If I'm right, I choose yours for 2 days. Game?

I don't gamble.

The police and media are withholding information because the shooters are black and they are a victim class that needs to be protected, for some reason.

Just to clarify, I'm not expecting "identities" as of yet, just descriptions other than "male."

How is such a withholding of descriptions coordinated and maintained?

 

[Foster Zygote]

How is such a withholding of descriptions coordinated and maintained?

Now now, Darat, if the sinister They can maintain the moon landing hoax by coordinating millions of physicists and engineers all over the world for half a century, then surely they can get the vast majority of journalists and law enforcement personnel to fully commit to the conspiracy against white people. I mean, the conspiracy against white people is so massive and effective that it must be coordinated by an extremely efficient and powerful like, I'm going to guess, teh Joos. And if white people are this stupid and hapless, maybe they deserve to be replaced.

 

[Bogative]

No you haven't your link was supporting your claim that victims were not co-operating with the police. The other claims you made about the victims were not addressed by that link.

That they are regressive retards? Yes, I did.

The refusal to cooperate with police is evidence of that.

How is this coordinated conspiracy across all media and this police department maintained?

I never said it was a conspiracy, it's just what they do.