Cont: Today's Mass Shooting (part 3)

Andy_Ross said:
Why this time though?
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Let's do some speculating, shall we? Speculating is fun!

If it was white supremacists, or the police, or religious fanatics who did the shooting, there would be witnesses willing to make a statement to the investigators.

Could it be gangsters? If it was an attempted robbery that went wrong, I think there would be witnesses willing to make a statement to the investigators.

So chances are that the shooters are part of the LGBTQ community. The media is generally sympathetic to the LGBTQ cause. The fun-loving, peaceful and non-violent LGBTQ image portrayed by the media will suffer a few dents. And the police are probably tip-toeing around a very sensitive issue.
 
BrettM said:
Let's do some speculating, shall we? Speculating is fun!

If it was white supremacists, or the police, or religious fanatics who did the shooting, there would be witnesses willing to make a statement to the investigators.

Could it be gangsters? If it was an attempted robbery that went wrong, I think there would be witnesses willing to make a statement to the investigators.

So chances are that the shooters are part of the LGBTQ community. The media is generally sympathetic to the LGBTQ cause. The fun-loving, peaceful and non-violent LGBTQ image portrayed by the media will suffer a few dents. And the police are probably tip-toeing around a very sensitive issue.
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Can I just be clear?

Are you advancing this as a serious theory or are you just taking the piss out of Bogative?
 
Dead serious. Chances are that the shooters are part of the LGBQT community. But we may never know.
 
BrettM said:
Let's do some speculating, shall we? Speculating is fun!

If it was white supremacists, or the police, or religious fanatics who did the shooting, there would be witnesses willing to make a statement to the investigators.

Could it be gangsters? If it was an attempted robbery that went wrong, I think there would be witnesses willing to make a statement to the investigators.

So chances are that the shooters are part of the LGBTQ community. The media is generally sympathetic to the LGBTQ cause. The fun-loving, peaceful and non-violent LGBTQ image portrayed by the media will suffer a few dents. And the police are probably tip-toeing around a very sensitive issue.
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Are you drunk?
You seem to be implying that there's a conspiracy involving the police to not investigate a shooting because it may involve suspects who are LGBTQ?
Are the police noted for their sympathy towards the LGBTQ members of the public?
 
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Darat said:
What are the police hiding?
Is it all "media"?
What is the "media" hiding?
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They, the police and media, are currently hiding – or at least not divulging – the identity of the shooters. Their identities will eventually be released if the suspects are charged or caught.

The two suspects walked into the party, hung out for a while and had a few drinks before pulling out pistols and shooting several people in what the police described as "targeted."

Hate crime? Drug deal gone bad? Who knows, other than the police, people at the party and the media involved in covering the story. All I know is that there are two males involved in a mass shooting with a murder and for some reason, after nearly a week, there is no description available to the public. Why?

I believe it's because the two shooters belong to a victim class and no one is talking because it doesn't fit the narrative.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Are you drunk?
You seem to be implying that there's a conspiracy involving the police to not investigate a shooting because it may involve suspects who are LGBTQ?
Are the police noted for their sympathy towards the LGBTQ members of the public?
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I am not drunk. I was speculating, remember?

I am sure the police are investigating this particular shooting. Maybe they haven't made an announcement yet because the investigation is still ongoing.

I said, "And the police are probably tip-toeing around a very sensitive issue".

The various police departments in the U.S.A. do not all display the same standard level of brutality and hate towards the LGBTQ community. Some of them are worse, and some of them will be better. It is possible that this particular department is trying to establish a better relationship with the LGBTQ community.
 
Bogative said:
They, the police and media, are currently hiding – or at least not divulging – the identity of the shooters. ....snip..
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You claim that the "media" know the identity of the shooters?
You claim the police know the identity of the shooters?
 
Darat said:
You claim that the "media" know the identity of the shooters?
You claim the police know the identity of the shooters?
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I believe that it is highly probable both the police and the media know more details about the shooters other than "male."

Just because the witnesses/victims at the punk party refuse to cooperate with police doesn't mean other people will not. Even in the violent ****hole that is Minneapolis, people are going to pay attention to gunshots and where/who they came from. I'm confident that not everyone who was witness to the shooting are complete regressive retards that refuse to cooperate with police when they are investigating a murder-mass shooting because black lives matter. The chances of no one cooperating are extremely small, in my opinion.

Same with the media. If they are not asking more details about two murderers who are on the loose, they are negligent.
 
BrettM said:
So chances are that the shooters are part of the LGBTQ community. The media is generally sympathetic to the LGBTQ cause. The fun-loving, peaceful and non-violent LGBTQ image portrayed by the media will suffer a few dents. And the police are probably tip-toeing around a very sensitive issue.
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Not this time. It'll be a different victim group.


More on the story from an organization called "Reckon."

Nudieland, a haven for queer and trans punks, shattered by hate-fueled mass shooting


According to the information they’ve collectively gathered, two men wandered upon the show and pursued two queer women.

In an Instagram post by MPR News, a user who attended the show commented, “They were trying to flirt with me and my friend—who both identify as lesbians—and we told them we weren’t interested and not to touch us. They got upset and eventually walked off, and less than a minute after [they] started firing.”

“This was a hate crime,” Diveley told Reckon.
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So the media, LGBTQ groups, the victims and fellow travelers are claiming this is a hate crime. An anti-LGBTQ mass shooting in a major city, with dozens of witnesses, and still no detailed description of the two male suspects.


Were they short, were the tall? Tattoos? Jewelry? Visible scars? Fat or skinny? Missing limbs or prosthetics? Wearing red MAGA hats? Jason Aldean fans? Something, anything?
 
While we are patiently waiting on descriptions of the shooters from Minneapolis, let's head on over to Philadelphia for a similar mass shooting.

1 killed, 6 wounded, the same number as Minneapolis. Just as in Minneapolis, the majority of the victims, 5, are female, the shooting was at a house party, and despite multiple eyewitnesses, the police have not released a description of the two suspects. Strange that.
 
Bogative said:
An update on the above mentioned Philadelphia mass shooting.

The victim count is now up to 9 total, 7 of which are women. Or gang bangers as the resident skeptics here at the ol' skeptics forum calls them.

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/7-shot-1-fatally-at-party-in-west-philadelphia-police/
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So more Americans killed by psychotic Americans with too easy access to firearms. Black, white, suburbanites, gang members, native born, immigrants... they all do it and at far greater frequency than the rest of the supposedly civilized western world. You've proved it again Bogative. Well done you! (except I'm not sure that is the take you want the rest of the world to get from the hell that is America on guns).
 
Parsman said:
So more Americans killed by psychotic Americans with too easy access to firearms. Black, white, suburbanites, gang members, native born, immigrants... they all do it and at far greater frequency than the rest of the supposedly civilized western world. You've proved it again Bogative. Well done you! (except I'm not sure that is the take you want the rest of the world to get from the hell that is America on guns).
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Psychotic? Probably not. More likely to be a socioeconomic situation.
 
I may as well post up some more mass shootings that occurred over the weekend while we await descriptions of the shooters in the Minneapolis anti-LGBTQ+ hate crime mass shooting.


4 wounded in Wilmington, Delaware. Very few details, 35 shots fired. Isn't Wilmington the home of Joe Biden? If this was a white supremacist shooting that the president is always yammering on about, the press will let us know. Just kidding, we all know it's not that type of shooting, it's Wilmington.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/four-injured-in-wilmington-del-multiple-shooting/ar-AA1fwj5d

9 wounded in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. This mass shooting occurred during the "Puerto Rican Festival." A 22-year-old man has been taken into custody. I'm guessing this is not a hate crime and the shooter's demographics do not align with the narrative.
https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/9-people-shot-and-injured-in-mass-shooting-in-milwaukee

1 killed, 3 wounded in Macon, Georgia. An argument led to gunfire at a "bootleg" event. Apparently, a "bootleg" is when individuals organize a party where they can illegally sell alcohol. I'm guessing these organizers weren't sitting around chewing tobacco in their overalls while operating their moonshine stills.
http://bibbsheriff.us/17859-2/

4 wounded in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. No details available other than address and number of victims.
https://www.fox6now.com/news/milwaukee-shooting-12th-mitchell

3 killed, 9 wounded in Seattle, Washington. Hookah lounge. 5 guns recovered. Nothing else needs to be said.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/2685998

8 wounded in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 7 teenagers and one adult female were shot in front of a grocery store in the early evening. 2 males wearing hoodies were seen running away from the shooting.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/incident/2686221
 
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