Christianity is a grotesque blight!

[The Man]

Don't Christians think they are saved and are therefore "better" than those who are not?

At the very least I am sure Christians and other delusions worshipping imbeciles think they are "better" than atheists.

Christians think they are "better" than Jews and Muslims and Hindus... and vice versa... no?

So what you are saying is "it is preferable to get rid" of Christians and pretty much all theists... no?

So, evidently how they think of themselves as good is apparently how you make that classification, while you never answered my questions to that regard. Then what they do can be bad, and that’s where the category error happens. Using one criteria to categorize them as good people than another to categorize them as doing evil. You think what they think of what they do is evil?


Heck, one of my now devoutly religious sisters on a dying phone call to our brother. Who had been disabled for a decade or more from a stroke. Where his family, the family he had chosen and sired decided, with much difficulty, when his kidneys failed, we should let him pass. Mouthed up and said “God what’s you to live”. I told her she should just go **** herself on that call. Not her family, not her call. “But he’s our family”, sure, but this was the family he chose and sired, even they told her to **** off after that. Was just meddling all the time, where the just staff would go ‘Oh, her again’. You’re preaching to the choir and still ineffaceably, unless people just opposing your argumentation, on an argumentation basis, was the effect you were after.

 

[bruto]

Don't Christians think they are saved and are therefore "better" than those who are not?

At the very least I am sure Christians and other delusions worshipping imbeciles think they are "better" than atheists.

Christians think they are "better" than Jews and Muslims and Hindus... and vice versa... no?

So what you are saying is "it is preferable to get rid" of Christians and pretty much all theists... no?

If I obey the law, I am performing better than a person who does not. In some sense I am indeed "better." Whether I arrogantly believe myself a better person is possible, but certainly not obligatory.

Salvation, for Christians at least, is about what you do, not what you are. No doubt many Christians, like many of all sorts, mistakenly consider themselves better for it, and they're as wrong in that belief as they are in the value of their actions, but that's another matter. The Christian literature abounds with examples of goodness transcending other qualifications of class, status, and performance in other ways, from the good Samaritan on down.

No doubt there are plenty of people who with pharisaical pride consider themselves above others because of their religious faith, but there are plenty also (if, alas, too few) who would, though claiming the same faith, call those others bad Christians for it.

There's plenty to criticize in religion in general, and Christianity in particular, but I think it a mistake, if not a downright disqualifying symptom of sloppy thought, to conflate performance with class or existential status.

 

[Blue Mountain]

Heck, one of my now devoutly religious sisters on a dying phone call to our brother.

Did you leave a word or two out there?

Who had been disabled for a decade or more from a stroke. Where his family, the family he had chosen and sired decided, with much difficulty, when his kidneys failed, we should let him pass. Mouthed up and said “God what’s you to live”. I told her she should just go **** herself on that call. Not her family, not her call. “But he’s our family”, sure, but this was the family he chose and sired, even they told her to **** off after that. Was just meddling all the time, where the just staff would go ‘Oh, her again’.

Are the highlighted words speech to text errors, or were you tired when you made the post? Overall I understood it, but the strange phrasing made it a bit difficult to follow.

 

[The Man]

Did you leave a word or two out there?



Are the highlighted words speech to text errors, or were you tired when you made the post? Overall I understood it, but the strange phrasing made it a bit difficult to follow.

Yeah just typos, sorry, it was late and on my Saturday night so I was imbibing as well.

Thing is religion didn’t make her that way. She was always a buttinsky know it all but just a train wreck herself that could hardly just keep her own life together. Religion seems to have given her some stability and she now has a stable husband, house and son in college. We had to have one of her unstable boyfriends hauled away by the Sheriffs when he hit her with a phone. Can’t say what might have happened to her otherwise.

Sure, I’d rather she found some stability in her life without religion but whatever worked for her. We can take the religious birthday, holiday and just about ever freak’n change of season greeting cards. She must support the whole greeting card industry herself. Our other brother was offended by them and has now cut her off when she wouldn’t do as he asked and just stop sending them to him. I admonished him that he shouldn’t make our BIL and nephew suffer his absence for her lack of consideration. Certainly it seems to have made her a better person in at least in some regards.

For myself I was always thought of as a good person even when I was a lying thieving scum bag. Certainly, it didn’t take religion for me, taken as a good person, to just do bad things.

 

[sackett]

"Why are people religious?" used to be a question I asked myself, until I asked it of a poor simple soul of my acquaintance. "June, why are you religious?"

She answered, "Because I feel like it!" Her tone was one of surprise at being asked something so obvious.

Well, it is obvious. People believe because it makes them feel good. They don't analyze or reflect or seek more. The unpleasant aspects of religion don't occur to them, and they don't suffer pain over unresolved questions. 'S all good.

Of course, if you ask, "Why are people atheists?" you get more satisfying answers, less simple-minded and less self-referential.

Now: Let's ask, "Why do some people hate religion? Or a particular religion?"

 

[dudalb]

Sad to say, some of the more militant Athiests have become Bizarro versions of the "Religionist" they hate so much.

 

[junkshop]

Why would you necro this stinking corpse?

The OP abandoned it in July of last year, and was banned in December of the same year.

Until your resurrectionism no-one had posted on this thread for nigh-on nine months. It is dead, let it be.