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Go woke, go broke

Yeah, it's called acting. They cast gay actors as straight characters all the time. They cast straight actors as gay characters. They cast grown-ass adults as teenagers. People generally don't lose their brains over acting. Although you do get the inevitable fringoids who take great offense at the notion of Jake Gyllenhaal getting a high-profile gay part, or who just can't STFU about how wrong it is that Jason Priestly wasn't really in high school when he starred in 90210.

There are plenty of people who can pass as the opposite sex, with with sufficient attention to wardrobe and makeup, favorable lighting, a willing audience, and some touch-up in post.

To my point: They didn't make the character trans. Even more to my point: They didn't make Margot Robbie's character trans.

Sure, if they made the movie a belabored, in your face movie about trans acceptance it might not be as good, but less because "go woke go broke", but because tedious movies are often unenjoyable, regardless of whether you agree with the message you are being beaten over the head with or not.
 
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I dunno. Someone in the art department with PRC sympathies seeing a chance to insert a personal easter egg doesn't seem all that implausible to me.

The supposedly offending line isn't close to the South China Sea, it seems to be extending outwards from roughly the center of mainland China (if you can even recognize the crudely drawn map in this detail), not towards the Vietnam Peninsula. Also, there's only 8 dashes.
 
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The supposedly offending line isn't close to the South China Sea, it seems to be extending outwards from roughly the center of mainland China (if you can even recognize the crudely drawn map in this detail), not towards the Vietnam Peninsula. Also, there's only 8 dashes.

Yeah... I'm looking at the wiki article about the controversy, and the map isn't even the real world :confused:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Barbie_Land_Real_World_Map.png

There are several dashed or solid lines there, and neither China nor Taiwan are even labeled. Asia is just a big blob island. Could be a legit coincidence or someone in the art department doing it on purpose that got past the studio execs. But I'm leaning towards coincidence.

ETA: anyways, "Barbenheimer" were it just one movie, would've been the 4th best domestic weekend in history.

Big BIG success. Considering Barbie probably cost a small fraction of an Avengers movie to make.

https://www.boxofficepro.com/weekend-box-office-barbie-oppeneimer/
 
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Big BIG success. Considering Barbie probably cost a small fraction of an Avengers movie to make.

https://www.boxofficepro.com/weekend-box-office-barbie-oppeneimer/

I'm gradually becoming a MCU "truther"*. These things cost a bazillion dollars to make and often come out looking worse than DVD title screen effects from the 2000s. There has to be some kind of dodgy hollywood accounting going on or something, because you're not seeing that money on screen.

The Barbie movie is more visually interesting than any green screen super-hero monstrosity I've ever seen, and Oppenheimer (which I haven't see yet) was even cheaper.

* not really, but it's still wild to me how much these movies spend to look like crap.
 
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I'm gradually becoming a MCU "truther"*. These things cost a bazillion dollars to make and often come out looking worse than DVD title screen effects from the 2000s. There has to be some kind of dodgy hollywood accounting going on or something, because you're not seeing that money on screen.

The Barbie movie is more visually interesting than any green screen super-hero monstrosity I've ever seen, and Oppenheimer (which I haven't see yet) was even cheaper.

* not really, but it's still wild to me how much these movies spend to look like crap.

Well, when you have like 6 Hollywood A-list actors, and about 15 from the B-list, in the cast, just thats going to be really pricey.

ETA: its also not that the special effects sequences were that pricey, its that about half the frickin movies are special effects sequences! And they're somewhat long movies.
 
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I find it really hard to believe the dotted line with 9 dots in the Barbie movie was a random accident and not a deliberate reference. However, what I have absolutely no idea about was whether it was intended to 'legitimatize' the Chinese claims or make fun of them. "Here's a map with a lot of crazy wrong stuff on it, and it also prominently includes this line" kinda implies the line is crazy and wrong. Seems like a pretty common thing to toss in more obvious references where a character says several ridiculous, obviously wrong things and also one "controversial" one.
 
I find it really hard to believe the dotted line with 9 dots in the Barbie movie was a random accident and not a deliberate reference. However, what I have absolutely no idea about was whether it was intended to 'legitimatize' the Chinese claims or make fun of them. "Here's a map with a lot of crazy wrong stuff on it, and it also prominently includes this line" kinda implies the line is crazy and wrong. Seems like a pretty common thing to toss in more obvious references where a character says several ridiculous, obviously wrong things and also one "controversial" one.

I count 8.
 
It will not make up for losing the South-East Asian market, if that actually happens, but 'Barbenheimer' sets records in Denmark:
'Barbenheimer' gav årets største biografweekend (DR.dk, July 24, 2023)
'Barbenheimer' was this year's biggest cinema weekend

This was in spite of expectations that people would stay at home to watch Jonas Vingegaard win Tour de France.
 
Two movies being attacked for being "woke",,
"Barbie" and "Oppenheimer" ....cleaned up at the box office this weekend.
Minor fuss about Greta Gerwig, director of Barbie, being signed to direct the reboot of the "Narnia" novels.
 
The wrong number of dots extending into the wrong sea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dash_line#/media/File:9_dotted_line.png

In the wrong places... also the 9 dashes aren't a contiguous line in real life... also all the islands are missing from the movies map, also the movies map doesn't even label China.

I'm gonna be this guy: I'm more knowledgeable of world politics more than probably 99% of Americans, and even I wasn't even familiar with this nine dash thing. The idea that the art department of a movie did this on purpose is damned unlikely.
 
Ben Shapiro makes a 43-minute-long Barbie video.
This one's much shorter:
0:00 Ben Shapiro Plays With a Barbie
2:07 Headlines
3:32 Ted Cruz Declares War on Barbie
4:24 The Review
6:27 Coping
10:59 Go Woke Go Broke?13:52 Outro
39-Year-Old Ben Shapiro Sets Barbie Dolls on Fire to Protest “Woke” Movie (The Humanist Report on YouTube, July 25, 2023 - 14:14 min.)

The even shorter version:
Ben Shapiro Suffers Psychotic Break After Watching Barbie Movie (The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder on YouTube, July 25, 2023 - 3:47 min.)
 
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You got a few important details wrong about the Bud Light fiasco

Rather, the mechanism is supposed to be that too much wokeness will alienate the demographics that you're trying to get money from. Sometimes, there's considerable overlap - the Bud Lite debacle, for instance. They came up with a woke ad campaign that alienated their target demographic,

It was one social media post. A single one. not a full ad campaign. And it was only viewable to people already following Dylan Mulvaney since it was her social media account, not Bud Light's.

and didn't bring in a new customer base to replace it.

Ya, the campaign probably wouldn't have brought i na ton of new customers, but their public back pedaling set fire to any hope they had of expanding.

So, they lost money - "go woke, go broke".

It is way more complicated than that.

First of all, that entire type of beer has been losing market share. Bud Light, Coors Light, Miller Lite, etc are just not as popular with younger people. They either want better beers or they just jump to hard seltzer. Sure, Coors and Miller gained what Bud lost, but it is still a dwindling market. Look at what beer replaced Bud Light as the #2 selling beer. Modelo Especial. While not a great beer by any strtch, it certainly wasn't what you would have expected to beat out Coors Light and Miller Lite.

Second, executives saw this happening and made an attempt to reach out to a younger audience. You can argue about the execution, but they were actually trying to expand their audience, not alienate part of it.

Third, it became a controversy because the Republican base was goaded into it by Republican operatives. Not extremists. These people share the stage with party leaders in the GQP. Let's not pretend that this is not the modern Republican party.

It is really like the James Gunn "controversy". A Republican operative dug up some old jokes he made in poor taste and got a bunch of howler monkeys on Twitter to attack Disney and get the media's attention.

Fourth, while they did see a big drop off from earlier this year, Bud Light's revenue is actually up from this time in 2022. We have no real idea what caused the drop off. It may have already been happening and the Dylan Mulvaney single post was an attempt to mitigate it.

That's all speculation, of course. The important thing is, "go woke, go broke" isn't about pissing off the right-wing extremists. It's about pissing off your actual customer base, whoever that might be.

It is completely driven by Republican operatives. That is why it is so selective and inconsistent in its outrage.
 
Two movies being attacked for being "woke",,
"Barbie" and "Oppenheimer" ....cleaned up at the box office this weekend.
Minor fuss about Greta Gerwig, director of Barbie, being signed to direct the reboot of the "Narnia" novels.

There's always going to be fringoids attacking stuff for being woke. These two movies did well because they didn't alienate their target demographic in the name of wokeness.
 
But who decides that? Why is one TikTok post from someone who most of your core audience will never come into contact with more offensive than a major summer tentpole movie about an iconic toy brand that apparently makes a dozen references to "patriarchy"?

Why was there so much outrage at Target this year instead of all the previous years? Why wasn't Walmart on the receiving end?

It's not that they are alienating their core audience".
 
There's always going to be fringoids attacking stuff for being woke. These two movies did well because they didn't alienate their target demographic in the name of wokeness.

This presupposes that the target audience (which is quite broad based on the box office) would be alienated by "wokeness" at all.

Crying about wokeness is a fringe position, normal people do not care about this. Right wing culture warriors are up in arms about the feminist message of the movie, it's just that their opinions are not widely shared outside their niche bubble of chuds.
 
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