Criminal Charges Against Trump / Trump Indicted / Hush Money Part II

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It's a VERY stupid idea that winning one case or settling it would somehow make Trump stronger - lawsuits are a battle of attrition, most of the time. Any proceedings, any discovery makes it easier for the next prosecutor/litigant to bring their case.
Do you think Fox is safe now they settled with Dominion?

The ONLY risk for going after Trump without getting a conviction is for the reelection prospects of the Prosecutors
 
Yes they have been. But this has been delayed to the point of absurdity.
Indeed. The point isn't that Trump cannot be prosecuted, but rather that it's so far past the point where pretty much anyone else would have been that it's absurd. There's understandable reason for such, but those reasons are largely not well in line with anything normal.

Just curious, does this Debbie Downer stuff have a purpose?

Is there something besides waiting for the fall (physical, not seasonal) we should be doing? I already vote every election to cast those GOP demons out. I've campaigned every election that mattered for decades, but I won't be able to do any door knocking in 2024. I'm not convinced joining the robocall army is effective and I don't have a lot of money but I'm always good for yard signs. :fg:



The ONLY risk for going after Trump without getting a conviction is for the reelection prospects of the Prosecutors
Makes sense to me. Why would Garland fear prosecuting Trump?

He's a tad wimpier than I'd hoped but I happier now that Smith is on the job.
 
Just curious, does this Debbie Downer stuff have a purpose?

For my part, there was no intent for it to be Debbie Downer stuff. It's true that reality is unpleasant at times, though, and I tend to think that facing the unpleasant bits head on is more useful than the alternatives, just like for the pleasant parts. I'm not going to hold my breath until Trump actually gets indicted, long after multiple overwhelming causes are already in the public consciousness, but I'm cautiously optimistic that it will happen, eventually. It's just that a lot of the more usual reasoning really just doesn't work as well under the circumstances. The man is pretty literally a national security nightmare, after all, and that gets no better as he continues to move freely.


Is there something besides waiting for the fall (physical, not seasonal) we should be doing? I already vote every election to cast those GOP demons out. I've campaigned every election that mattered for decades, but I won't be able to do any door knocking in 2024. I'm not convinced joining the robocall army is effective and I don't have a lot of money but I'm always good for yard signs. :fg:

Thank you for your efforts!
 
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For my part, there was no intent for it to be Debbie Downer stuff. It's true that reality is unpleasant at times, though, and I tend to think that facing the unpleasant bits head on is more useful than the alternatives, just like for the pleasant parts. I'm not going to hold my breath until Trump actually gets indicted, long after multiple overwhelming causes are already in the public consciousness, but I'm cautiously optimistic that it will happen, eventually....
I'm not holding my breath either. I'm also more than optimistic. I'm pretty sure Smith ain't no dummy and he isn't Mueller and Garland isn't Barr.

And Fani Willis (Georgia) will definitely indict Trump soon if the Republicans in Georgia don't try to have her removed for Trump's sake. Hopefully they will see the writing on the wall, Trump is a loser.
 
oh, i think trump is going to be prosecuted and convicted. particularly in the fbi documents case.
 
It is stunning to me that he hasn't been already. Anyone else would be in jail by now.

If what you were saying were true, then the Tricky Dicky, Ray Gun and Shrub I administrations would be blinking in their first sight of the light of day in decades right about now. Every man jack among them.
 
New audio of The FPDJT in a meeting with a classified document apparently waving it around to people who were not authorized to see it. This will be the thing that gets him!

Wait. No, it won't.
 
New audio of The FPDJT in a meeting with a classified document apparently waving it around to people who were not authorized to see it. This will be the thing that gets him!

Wait. No, it won't.
I beg to differ. I'll bet $$$ that not only will he be indicted, but that goes to prison. My only caveat is that he's pardoned by Desanctimonious.
 
Trump openly brags about committing a crime for the 74,987th time.

This isn't even in the top 10 of things he's openly admitted doing.
 
You don't know that. You don't know what is going on behind the scenes or why they haven't brought charges yet. You're just guessing.

Am I just guessing when there are audio and video recordings of him confessing to crimes? When there are tv interviews where he admits his criminal activities. Where there are security footages of his staff moving documents? When his own attorneys implicate him in obstruction?
 
Mafia bosses don't have 100,000,000 rabid, heavily armed ******* followers, many of whom are quite willing to kill for him.

That's an exaggeration. Nowhere near that many even voted for Trump.
 
That's an exaggeration. Nowhere near that many even voted for Trump.

Yeah that's should have been your takeaway.

Focusing on a little bit of humorous exaggeration instead of the, ya know, point.

*Roll eyes*
 
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You don't know that. You don't know what is going on behind the scenes or why they haven't brought charges yet. You're just guessing.

Am I just guessing when there are audio and video recordings of him confessing to crimes? When there are tv interviews where he admits his criminal activities. Where there are security footages of his staff moving documents? When his own attorneys implicate him in obstruction?

Yes, you're just guessing as to why charges haven't been brought yet. Knowing some of the evidence against Trump does not mean you know WHY it's taking so long or what's going on behind the scenes. I understand you're impatient for Trump to be charged...so am I. But the investigators know more than we do. It's very possible that they're working with recalcitrant witnesses and securing deals before moving to indict. If they didn't have good reasons to NOT indict YET, they would have. I sincerely believe Trump will be indicted in both the documents case and the Georgia case.
 
Yes, you're just guessing as to why charges haven't been brought yet. Knowing some of the evidence against Trump does not mean you know WHY it's taking so long or what's going on behind the scenes. I understand you're impatient for Trump to be charged...so am I. But the investigators know more than we do. It's very possible that they're working with recalcitrant witnesses and securing deals before moving to indict. If they didn't have good reasons to NOT indict YET, they would have. I sincerely believe Trump will be indicted in both the documents case and the Georgia case.

It looks that way.
 
But he's not anyone else. He's a former POTUS and the leading GOP contender in 2024. That's why the evidence has to be overwhelming and every single i dotted and t crossed.

That is it. When you try to take down a ex President, you have better have every i dotted and t crossed in your legal proceedings.
 
You don't know that. You don't know what is going on behind the scenes or why they haven't brought charges yet. You're just guessing.

I wonder how many of these people making these comments have law degrees or passed the Bar.
My sister, who is a practicing attorney way back in 2021 predicted it would take a couple of years before indictments came down. You really want your act totally together if you try to take down a ex Potus.
 
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