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What Happens to Downtown?

Polio was "just endemic".

I'm pretty glad it isn't anymore.

Polio was endemic and a scourge.

Influenza is endemic, but much less of a scourge.

The common cold is endemic, but hardly a scourge at all.

The currently endemic strains of Covid-19 seem to fall pretty squarely in the "bad case of the flu" range of endemic illnesses. Decidedly unpleasant to experience, but treatable with bed rest in most cases, unless you have co-morbidities like old age or other exacerbating conditions.
 
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, it seems that many downtowns are doing just fine. . . by making downtown more of a destination, than just a place where people work.

Our downtown was a destination because people worked there. Take away the daily influx of office workers, and all the restaurants that did most of their business serving meals to them end up closing down. All the shops that might attract their interest before they head home again end up closing down.
 
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, it seems that many downtowns are doing just fine. . . by making downtown more of a destination, than just a place where people work.


By way of example, Durham,NC has done a pretty decent job of reinvigorating its downtown after a period where it seemed terminal. As well as destinations like restaurants, sports, and music venues, they have succeeded in creating a fair amount of downtown residential, mostly by renovating and repurposing older buildings, from offices to old tobacco warehouses and manufacturing buildings.

It doesn't hurt that there are two universities of decent size within the city limits, so there's a market for these attractions, as well as this residential 'gentrifying'. Which is what this is. Make no mistake, the new apts. are not priced toward the lower income classes.
 
We really don't have this concept of downtown like it seems to be used in the USA, yet we have vibrant towns, plenty of outside social stuff to do, restaurants and the like.

UKians don't have a concept of urban centers with dense concentrations of housing and commerce?

Or do UKians simply assume that downtown is some sort of literal reference to towns, rather than being a term for a core feature of cities?
 
Another sign of the times: San Francisco's downtown Whole Foods Market, a flagship store of the chain, closes a little over a year after opening, citing employee safety. Protecting them from Covid-19? Nope:

A City Hall source told The Standard the company cited deteriorating street conditions around drug use and crime near the grocery store as a reason for its closure.

Since the start of the pandemic, Downtown has suffered a massive loss in foot traffic due to remote work. Many small businesses have shuttered, while examples of extreme poverty, drug use and mental illness on the street have become more apparent. Fears of a “doom loop” in which a cascade of negative financial impacts compound have spread across the city, and City Hall officials currently expect a nearly $800 million deficit in San Francisco’s budget.

Here's an idea that may have some merit: convert downtown SF's offices to student housing.

Across the board, local higher-ed institutions struggle to house their students, and UC Berkeley is a prime example. The UC system wants to expand enrollment by 33,000 students by the end of this decade, and UC Berkeley was one of three campuses designated to absorb half of those new students.

However, the university is unable to guarantee more than one year of housing for its current student body, who regularly report issues around housing insecurity. The university houses only 23% of its students—by far the lowest percentage in the UC system.
 
Another sign of the times: San Francisco's downtown Whole Foods Market, a flagship store of the chain, closes a little over a year after opening, citing employee safety. Protecting them from Covid-19? Nope:

...snip...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/11/business/san-francisco-whole-foods-closure/index.html

The report says "difficult decision to close the Trinity store for the time being." So it may not be a permanent closure.

But it does seem strange that they are citing crime when they opened the store knowing "Property crimes...snip....still well below 2017 levels, the city saw a 23% increase in property crimes between 2020 and 2022, with spikes in burglary and theft headlining the surge...snip..." so crime is less than it was in 2017. That would seem to be indicating that the city is dealing with crime.

Meanwhile another large chain, Walgreens stated: "“Maybe we cried too much last year” about merchandise losses, Walgreens ...snip... The company’s rate of shrink — merchandise losses due to theft, fraud, damages, mis-scanned items and other errors — fell from 3.5% of total sales last year to around 2.5% during its latest quarter."

Why is this a problem today when the crime rate was the same when they opened the store? And less than it was in 2017?
 
UKians don't have a concept of urban centers with dense concentrations of housing and commerce?

Or do UKians simply assume that downtown is some sort of literal reference to towns, rather than being a term for a core feature of cities?

Nope - not a core feature of UK cities - London and Edinburgh are the exceptions.
 
Popular downtown Portland coffee shop closes due to crime
It is with a heavy heart that we share the following message:

We have decided to permanently close our downtown Portland cafe (1171 SW Jefferson St) with the last full day of operation being this Thursday, April 13.

The team members at this cafe have been on the front line enduring extreme violence and criminal activity on an almost daily basis for the last few years– crime and violence that is only increasing in frequency and severity. From theft, to physical displays of violence, threats of harm, break-ins, window smashing, and repeated traumatic in-cafe incidents where both staff and patrons feel unsafe.We have brought all the resources to bear that we have access to: doubling up on shifts, locking one entrance, de-escalation training, hazard pay, and heightened management oversight. This has proven to not be a temporary situation—and it is not a situation we can manage. Most importantly, it is not a situation where we can thrive. We cannot continue operation here as we cannot ensure the safety of our team and customers. Our neighboring businesses have seen it, too – and we’ve watched them close one by one over the past few years. Sadly, we now join them.
 
Whole Foods Market discovers the pandemic isn't over

Another sign of the times: San Francisco's downtown Whole Foods Market, a flagship store of the chain, closes a little over a year after opening, citing employee safety. Protecting them from Covid-19? Nope:


A City Hall source told The Standard the company cited deteriorating street conditions around drug use and crime near the grocery store as a reason for its closure.

Since the start of the pandemic, Downtown has suffered a massive loss in foot traffic due to remote work. Many small businesses have shuttered, while examples of extreme poverty, drug use and mental illness on the street have become more apparent. Fears of a “doom loop” in which a cascade of negative financial impacts compound have spread across the city, and City Hall officials currently expect a nearly $800 million deficit in San Francisco’s budget.


Nope? Really?
 
If I read you correctly,

First time for everything, I suppose.

you are blaming Capitalism for Covid.

But it won't be this time. My criticism is slightly more nuanced than that. But, extremists, especially extremists of the center, have no use for nuance.

I'm blaming cult capitalists for preventing reasonable mitigation standards that could ptentially save the lives of millions with no downside except some money. Which is a thing we invented to track personal debts.

Prove it.

Prove what? That thousands are still dying from COVID? That the effects of long COVID are just now showing up in earnest? That there are reasonable mitigation steps that can be taken? That the only thing preventing taking said steps is it would require our lords to shell out for them to protect us?

And Covid will never go away complety. No virus ever does.

Well, duh.

But it has been reduced to managable levels.

Prove it. What's the magic number? How many deaths are acceptable to you to save the Almighty Market, Peace Be Upon Its Money.

I do not agree with Brainster a lot but he is right,

And this is why I call extreme centrism a violent ideology. You will dismissively kill untold numbers to maintain the status quo.

you are clinging to Covid

As I have said beofre, COVID is clinging to us.

because you think it furthers your polieical agenda.

My "political agenda" is the health and safety of my fellow man.
 
Another sign of the times: San Francisco's downtown Whole Foods Market, a flagship store of the chain, closes a little over a year after opening, citing employee safety. Protecting them from Covid-19? Nope:

we're saying a big box store getting shut down in the same neighborhood they drive small business out of is a bad thing? That's even if we can take them at their word, which we can't. Whole Foods may be employing the same strategy as large retailers like Walgreens and CVS. Blame "crime sprees" for their closing stores, even though it was part of a multiyear strategy to drive out competition and consolidate their control of an area.

Here's an idea that may have some merit: convert downtown SF's offices to student housing.

that's one way to go. I'd also like to see more mixed use buildings with a focus on local business proprietors.
 
we're saying a big box store getting shut down in the same neighborhood they drive small business out of is a bad thing? That's even if we can take them at their word, which we can't. Whole Foods may be employing the same strategy as large retailers like Walgreens and CVS. Blame "crime sprees" for their closing stores, even though it was part of a multiyear strategy to drive out competition and consolidate their control of an area.

Yes how fiendish of them to drive out the competition, and then leave themselves, thereby consolidating their control of the area--wait, what?
 
Whole Foods Market Protecting Employees from COVID-19? Nope!

Another sign of the times: San Francisco's downtown Whole Foods Market, a flagship store of the chain, closes a little over a year after opening, citing employee safety. Protecting them from Covid-19? Nope:


There is actually some truth to that, but not what Brainster intended.
Apparently, Whole Foods Market doesn't give a **** about protecting employees from COVID-19:

Whole Foods workers need Whole Foods stores across the country to keep occupancy limited, require shoppers to wear their masks, and have managers remove customers from the store who won’t wear masks! Additionally, we need a sick time policy that allows us to actually quarantine without losing income. We can’t choose between losing our finances and putting others at risk.
While the COVID-19 vaccine is becoming more readily available across the country, Whole Foods workers are still getting sick! Management everywhere are allowing pre-pandemic crowd sizes, despite the country still only being a third vaccinated. Mask mandates are rarely enforced. This isn’t new, Whole Foods workers have been reporting all pandemic that management teams have consistently put workers in danger rather than enforce any meaningful safety protocols with customers.
Whole Worker has received reports from workers who were lied to about cleaning crews coming in. We’ve gotten reports of stores where as many as a quarter of store employees tested positive for COVID and where employees were only told to quarantine over a week after management knew they’d worked a shift with someone who had tested positive for COVID.
We’ve even heard from stores where management forced employees to open their store without running water, and thus no working bathrooms or water to refill disinfectant, despite this being a violation of company policy, state law, and health codes.
We’re tired of being put second in Whole Foods’ pursuit of profit and customer pleasing. No profit line is worth our health and safety. We deserve better and we demand safe working conditions!
We Demand Safety from COVID at Whole Foods! (Coworker.org)


'Citing employee safety'? Yeah, right!
It's something that companies love to cite. It's much like green hypocrisy in that respect, and Whole Foods Market seems to be very good at combining employee safety hypocrisy with geen hypocrisy.
Whole Foods Employee Cites Hypocrisy In 2,000-Word Resignation Letter (Business Insider, July 15, 2011)
Activists at Shareholder Meeting Say Whole Foods is Bad for the Planet (PRNewswire/Internatonal Brotherhood of Teamsters, Mar 8, 2010)
 
Lack of income for the cities.

Cities need money to maintain infrastructure like roads, traffic lights, overhead street lights, stormwater drains, generation and reticulation of potable water, domestic waste disposal, sewerage disposal, public transport, etc.

If the infrastructure is not maintained, the city decays and turns into a slum.

And in terms of US cities it is the decaying centres which are subsidising suburbia. The suburbs are too loosely packed and too lacking in commercial properties to actually break even against their maintenance.
 

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