But if we earnestly keep trying to turn these monsters back into humans, we'll eventually figure out how to do it, and then they can go free.
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But if we earnestly keep trying to turn these monsters back into humans, we'll eventually figure out how to do it, and then they can go free.
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quadraginta
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And in other news, on the very heels of this latest set of murders, the NC General Assembly bulldozed a new law over the Governor's veto which made purchasing a handgun easier by removing the requirement for the approval by a local Sheriff.
Because why should county law enforcement know anything more about the residents of their county than the Repugnican pols in state government?
Because why should county law enforcement know anything more about the residents of their county than the Repugnican pols in state government?
jeremyp
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You don't need to know much about guns to understand that they can be used to cause a lot of death and destructions and therefore should be controlled. You really don't need to know the difference between an M16 and an AR15 to understand that unrestricted access to either for civilians is a recipe for disaster.
When you read somebody saying "well acktuallyyyy, an AR15 is not an assault rifle because it doesn't have an automatic mode" you know they are deflecting because they have put their gun fetishism ahead of the lives of other peoples children and they know deep down that they can't really justify it.
I have not read this new law, but if it was like the federal regulations associated with NFA firearms like machine guns and silencers, the local sheriff could have withheld their approval for any or no reason at all. This was the most common complaint I heard about regarding obtaining authorization from the ATF to make or transfer an NFA firearm.
In 2016 the Obama administration wrote 41F which amended the CFR requiring an individual to obtain the CLEO signature prior to submitting their tax stamp application; it was replaced with a rule that required informing the local sheriff or other CLEO in the applicant's jurisdiction.
Since NICS and FBI bkgd checks are common now, letting the sheriff say yes or no is falling out of favor in the last several years.
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Now back to our regularly scheduled mass shooting with 10 or more victims.
1 killed, 10 wounded after an "altercation" turned into gunplay at a house party in Macomb, Illinois.
Anyone want to guess the oppressed group these two shooters are from?(That is a rhetorical question of course, there were no posts about the shooting on this thread before I came along, everyone already knows.)
https://www.25newsnow.com/2023/03/3...macomb-shooting-ask-help-identifying-witness/
1 killed, 10 wounded after an "altercation" turned into gunplay at a house party in Macomb, Illinois.
Anyone want to guess the oppressed group these two shooters are from?(That is a rhetorical question of course, there were no posts about the shooting on this thread before I came along, everyone already knows.)
https://www.25newsnow.com/2023/03/3...macomb-shooting-ask-help-identifying-witness/
Steve
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Americans? Seems to be the one common thread in all these shootings.
Hercules56
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I don't think we will ever stop mass shootings until we require a psych eval to possess a gun and a permit to buy a gun. But this won't happen without amending the 2nd Amendment.
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Why should we have to amend the second for that to be required? We have limitations on the 1st, so why not the second?
2nd Amendment protections can be regulated or legislated out of existence. All they have to do is require registration of guns, then refuse to register them.
In 1934 FDR signed the bill requiring registration of certain firearms; they were illegal unless registered. In 1986 Reagan closed the registry for civilian machine guns. Then Bush, Trump and Biden got rid of bump stocks and forced reset triggers by calling them machine guns. No one could register them, so they became contraband.
Biden can do the same with every semi-auto rifle and semi-auto handgun; just classify them as machine guns because they are capable of bump fire.
Washington State recently amended state law to allow mental health to be a part of bkgd checks for buying a gun or obtaining a permit to carry. https://www.hca.wa.gov/assets/program/fact-sheet-firearm-background-checks.pdf
There are limitations on the 2nd Amendment. There is a list of people who are not allowed to possess guns; related to age, health, criminal record etc.
Guns are taxed (11% excise tax) higher than most other goods; some of them have an additional $200 tax each time they are made or transferred.
Various guns need a bkgd check and ATF approval to transfer and some states have nearly universal bkgd checks required for gun sale or transfers.
arthwollipot
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What do you think the reaction would be if that happened?
Personally, I think that a good solid percentage of people would absolutely lose their ****.
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Which is exactly my point. This whole idea presented that we need an additional amendment to do something about the 2nd is ridiculous.
Teacher almost killed by six-year-old sues for $40 million.
I hope she sues the negligent parents, too.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-m...-elementary-shooting-abigail-zwerner-lawsuit/
I hope she sues the negligent parents, too.
Checkmite
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Based just on the facts that are publicly known, it sounds like the teacher has a pretty good case.
There's always a possibility that a judge might decide the school administrators have no obligation to protect teachers in this way. They have already ruled that police officers assigned to a school have no obligation to protect any of the students or staff.
There's always a possibility that a judge might decide the school administrators have no obligation to protect teachers in this way. They have already ruled that police officers assigned to a school have no obligation to protect any of the students or staff.
quadraginta
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Any illusions I may have had about the possibility of a sane world were rudely dispelled when they started explaining to me about nuclear holocausts and how I could protect myself by hiding under my desk ... in 3rd grade.
Things have only gone downhill since then.
arthwollipot
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No, you don't need another amendment. You just need to repeal the existing one.
Blue Mountain
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Not even that. Simply give it a more sane interpretation by linking the first clause to the second.
I note that the phrase "well-regulated" in the first clause apparently carries an older meaning that implies "well-organized and smoothly running." That interpretation can be applied by using regulations to ensure militias are indeed well-organized and smoothly running.
Also, "bear arms" can be more narrowly interpreted. The arms to which Americans have a right to bear could be narrowed to certain rifles and shotguns useful to said well-regulated militias. Or apply a 1791 interpretation to limit the arms to muskets and pitchforks.
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