The DeSantis gambit

[Gulliver Foyle]

Has Harris actually messed anything up? Or are we just going by gossip to the media when we say this? I'm not even a huge fan of hers based on her actual policies.



That is probably going to to be the best thing going for the Democrats. "Look at this clown show"



Alito retires and some 30-year-old staff attorney from the Federalist Society gets appointed.

A one furthermore that couldn't tell you the difference between a misdemeanour and a felony offence. Or be able to explain how their crackpot legal assertions could possibly pass muster.

It's the federalist society after all.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Yeah, he's a big dummy, going to Yale for his undergraduate work and Harvard Law School (who?) for his JD.

Plenty of people have graduated out of Yale and Harvard before learning how to spell their own names.

 

[Armitage72]

The new Reedy Creek board that DeSantis expected to give him influence over Disney has been stripped of its power by Disney and the outgoing board until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England."

 

[Stacyhs]

The new Reedy Creek board that DeSantis expected to give him influence over Disney has been stripped of its power by Disney and the outgoing board until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England."

Paywalled

Odd. Second time I clicked on the link, it wasn't paywalled.

 

[Trebuchet]

Yeah, he's a big dummy, going to Yale for his undergraduate work and Harvard Law School (who?) for his JD.

I'm reminded of Dilbert's co-worker Sven, who, according to the boss, went to Yale. According to Sven, he yust got out last veek!
On the other hand, lots of people thought it was great GW Bush went to Yale. He was a legacy. De Santis wasn't, as far as I can tell. Maybe they were doing some affirmative action for Italian Americans.

 

[Trebuchet]

IQ smart doesn't always equate to being smart. Plenty of 'smart' people can still be idiots; narcissism and a lust for money and power can make fools of even the 'intelligent' among us.

An example of Trebuchet's theory of The Intelligent Fool. Lots of intelligent and well-educated people believe really stupid stuff. Or at least profess to believe, in DeSantis's case.

 

[Armitage72]

Paywalled

Strange. It isn't for me.

Gov. Ron DeSantis’ handpicked board overseeing Disney World’s government services is gearing up for a potential legal battle over a 30-year development agreement they say effectively renders them powerless to manage the entertainment giant’s future growth in Central Florida.

Ahead of an expected state takeover, the Walt Disney Co. quietly pushed through the pact and restrictive covenants that would tie the hands of future board members for decades, according to a legal presentation by the district’s lawyers on Wednesday.

Among other things, a “declaration of restrictive covenants” spells out that the district is barred from using the Disney name without the corporation’s approval or “fanciful characters such as Mickey Mouse.”

That declaration is valid until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England,” if it is deemed to violate rules against perpetuity, according to the document.

A development agreement allows Disney to build projects at the highest density and the right to sell or assign those development rights to other district landowners without the board having any say, according to the presentation by the district’s new special legal counsel.

There are also several paragraphs of DeSantis' representatives and lawyers saying that it's legally questionable and subverts the will of the voters and they're bringing in legal teams to examine it. Because Disney's attorneys are obviously of the same shoddy quality that DeSantis employs and wouldn't have gone over it with a fine tooth comb.

 

[Stacyhs]

Strange. It isn't for me.

Strange. I clicked on the link again, and it was fine.

There are also several paragraphs of DeSantis' representatives and lawyers saying that it's legally questionable and subverts the will of the voters and they're bringing in legal teams to examine it. Because Disney's attorneys are obviously of the same shoddy quality that DeSantis employs and wouldn't have gone over it with a fine tooth comb.

I agree about the Disney attorneys probably being better than DeSantis'. If this hobbles DeSantis' board, so much the better.

 

[Darat]

The new Reedy Creek board that DeSantis expected to give him influence over Disney has been stripped of its power by Disney and the outgoing board until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England."

Not available in the UK any other links?

 

[The Don]

Not available in the UK any other links?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65120369

A board picked by Florida's governor to oversee Disney's Orlando theme parks says it has been neutered by a last-minute contract with a royal clause.

Disney ran the district for over half a century until Florida legislators punished the conglomerate for slamming state laws regulating sex education.

But the new board says its authority has been bypassed by restrictive covenants that cite King Charles III.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Oh dear. Looks like this will take years, nay, DECADES! for the DeSantis team to unravel and reverse. And every step of the way, the Disney team can appeal every decision up the chain to the Supreme Court, delaying and delaying and delaying.

...Of COURSE nobody has EVER done that before!

 

[jadebox]

The mouse has balls!

 

[Mongrel]

While they won't be phased by the hypocrisy of it this plan it's important to remember that the GOP have pulled this sort of trick before. An outgoing Republican majority strips power from the incoming Democrats, leaving power in their hands

 

[Segnosaur]

I certainly have, and they show Trump with a healthy lead over De Santis.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/

Given De Santis hasn't entered the race yet, I think he'll swing it round easily.

Meatball Ron has other problems with polls:

From: Business Insider
A recent poll from YouGov and Yahoo News highlighted this dynamic and showed that as supporters of DeSantis learned more about his policies, the less willing they were to vote for him....The pollster then asked respondents about eight of the policies that DeSantis has championed as governor, but didn't note the relation to DeSantis. More respondents opposed seven of eight of DeSantis' policies than favored them
...
(policies included Covid practices, critical race theory, book bans, gun control and abortion.)
...
After inquiring about each of DeSantis' policies, the pollster told respondents that "All of the proposals from the previous question have been put forward or signed into law by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.... it appears that DeSantis supporters were less likely to vote for him after learning about his policies.

So, even if he does manage to beat trump in the primaries, the political baggage he brings from his time in Florida might harm him in the general election.

Perhaps the Republicans should look for some other potential candidate who hides his fascism a little better.

 

[dudalb]

Strange. I clicked on the link again, and it was fine.





I agree about the Disney attorneys probably being better than DeSantis'. If this hobbles DeSantis' board, so much the better.

De Santis is about to learn why one of the rules in Hollywood is "Don't F__ with The Mouse".

 

[kookbreaker]

Strange. It isn't for me.







There are also several paragraphs of DeSantis' representatives and lawyers saying that it's legally questionable and subverts the will of the voters and they're bringing in legal teams to examine it. Because Disney's attorneys are obviously of the same shoddy quality that DeSantis employs and wouldn't have gone over it with a fine tooth comb.

I was watching one youtuber note that this would only be legally questionable if it were done on the quiet. But it wasn't. Everything about this was done effectively in public, but DeSantis' little patch of sycophants and goons were too busy dreaming about the money they would be grifting to notice what was happening out in the open. So the Desantis corruption squad may try to nibble at the edges but really cannot be challenged very effectively.

 

[Norman Alexander]

But Meatball Ron is a Yale-educated lawyer! He'll fix it in minutes!

 

[dudalb]

But Meatball Ron is a Yale-educated lawyer! He'll fix it in minutes!

The Mouse's attorneys will eat him for breakfast.

Ron was probably i the goat of his class. the ones DIsney hired edited the Law Review (in the US, to get the job of an editor for your law school's law review is about the highest honor you can get, only the best students are offred the job)..

 

[dudalb]

Just heard a good one:

The Disney legal strategy was mapped out by Matt Murdoch and She Hulk, Attorney At Law.

 

[KDLarsen]

Meatball Ron has other problems with polls:

From: Business Insider
A recent poll from YouGov and Yahoo News highlighted this dynamic and showed that as supporters of DeSantis learned more about his policies, the less willing they were to vote for him....The pollster then asked respondents about eight of the policies that DeSantis has championed as governor, but didn't note the relation to DeSantis. More respondents opposed seven of eight of DeSantis' policies than favored them
...
(policies included Covid practices, critical race theory, book bans, gun control and abortion.)
...
After inquiring about each of DeSantis' policies, the pollster told respondents that "All of the proposals from the previous question have been put forward or signed into law by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.... it appears that DeSantis supporters were less likely to vote for him after learning about his policies.

So, even if he does manage to beat trump in the primaries, the political baggage he brings from his time in Florida might harm him in the general election.

Perhaps the Republicans should look for some other potential candidate who hides his fascism a little better.

Sadly that's par for the course in most political systems these days, with candidates and parties effectively gaslighting the voters as to what they actually intend to do.

Best summed up by the (possibly apocryphal) story of someone in the UK claiming the UK conservatives were doing a better job than Labour, because under the Tories there were more foodbanks around.