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Richard Pryor said in his act once...
"I went to Africa, and saw what REAL black people look like. And...someone in my family has been LYING to me!!!" :D
 
Why would one think that cross-cultural breeding is going to increase significantly? People will largely always gravitate toward their own kind, naturally, I think.

I would suggest that you check out the intermarriage statistics, at least in the USA and UK.

I'd put up a current cite if I had one, my last information is a few years old, but the trend was quite clear, and way out of any error boundaries.
 
I believe the opposite is pretty firmly established -- look up "assortative mating." In particular, humans have been well-documented in showing evidence of assortative mating in almost any trait you care to study. I'll be happy to provide citations if you want to get into the debate-by-pubmed.

I've always wondered how that accomodates the rate of intermarriage, and the change in the rate of intermarriage.
 
I believe the opposite is pretty firmly established -- look up "assortative mating." In particular, humans have been well-documented in showing evidence of assortative mating in almost any trait you care to study. I'll be happy to provide citations if you want to get into the debate-by-pubmed.

This is fairly interesting. I've often wondered why people are attracted to some races and not others. Is it a psychological thing, a genetic thing, instinct, or just another personal idiosyncratic preference like being attracted to people with long hair or large bosoms or snub noses?

And is it just me, or are mixed-race people more attractive, in general, than unmixed people from the same races the mixed-race person is descended from? (eta: Okay, that's a confusing sentence. I mean Mary, whose parents are from Race A and Race B, respectively, is more attractive than most girls of either Race A or Race B). Although that could be a social thing rather than a genetic one: it could be that in order to overcome the boundaries of race-preference, the parents had to be unusually attractive themselves, and each passed their attractiveness on to their child.

(eta2: then again, it might just be the exoticism factor adding bonus points to the mixed individual's attractiveness.)
 
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I've always wondered how that accomodates the rate of intermarriage, and the change in the rate of intermarriage.

Well, biological drives towards assortative mating are not the only pressure on mating -- and a lot of assortative mating is not genetic in origin, but cultural. Think of the age-old question, "... but would you want your daughter to marry one?" Obviously, you taught your daughter how to think, including how to think about other, different, people. Biology isn't destiny.

Similarly, a lot of the traits for which humans assortatively mate aren't biologically determined, but culturally determined, such as social class. There's no "gene" for "upper-class," or for "college educated," but those are among the traits with the strongest assortative pressure we know of. As society changes, the genetic effect of those traits will also change -- for example, if no blacks or hispanics could get college degrees (as was nearly the case fifty years ago), educational assortative mating would act to reduce racial intermarriage among the college educated. That is no longer the case, and the rate of racial intermarriage is much higher now than in 1955.
 
This is fairly interesting. I've often wondered why people are attracted to some races and not others. Is it a psychological thing, a genetic thing, instinct, or just another personal idiosyncratic preference like being attracted to people with long hair or large bosoms or snub noses?

One of the better theory of this is the "love map" theory, pioneered by Dr. John Money of the Johns Hopkins University. What an unfortunate name for a scholar specializing in the psychology of love, yes?

All jesting aside, he suggests -- and has substantial evidence to support -- that everyone has an individual "love map" in their brain describing their ideal mate, and that much of the characteristics of that person are defined by their parents, and to a lesser extent our backgrounds growing up. We emulate the people and the relationships we learned as children. This applies not just to the physical, but also to the emotional.

Which provides another explanation for assortative mating. The children who grew up most like me are going to be the ones with the love maps that most match mine.... so those will be the ones I date, fall in love with, and marry.
 
One of the better theory of this is the "love map" theory, pioneered by Dr. John Money of the Johns Hopkins University. What an unfortunate name for a scholar specializing in the psychology of love, yes?

All jesting aside, he suggests -- and has substantial evidence to support -- that everyone has an individual "love map" in their brain describing their ideal mate, and that much of the characteristics of that person are defined by their parents, and to a lesser extent our backgrounds growing up. We emulate the people and the relationships we learned as children. This applies not just to the physical, but also to the emotional.

Which provides another explanation for assortative mating. The children who grew up most like me are going to be the ones with the love maps that most match mine.... so those will be the ones I date, fall in love with, and marry.

Ah, but I'm not talking about love, just physical attraction.
 
Um, no. Genetics doesn't work that way. There's this little discrete unit called the "gene" that can't be arbitrarily mixed. Otherwise everyone in the world by now would have one ovary and one testicle.

Right. And if you look at the water in my tub analogy, you would still be able to identify individual blue or yellow molecules in the "green" water.

Genes can't be mixed. At the same time, there is no one single gene that makes up the texture of your hair, the thickness of your nose or the shape of your toenails. When people of different gene pools mate, the progeny will most likely be a compromise of what is typical of each population.

I believe the opposite is pretty firmly established -- look up "assortative mating." In particular, humans have been well-documented in showing evidence of assortative mating in almost any trait you care to study. I'll be happy to provide citations if you want to get into the debate-by-pubmed.

There is also something called "negative assortative mating."

Pedant.
 
Let me know when you can define the difference. I -- and the Swedish Academy -- will read your definition with interest.

So, if I see a photo of someone and think "hot!" it's love, and not just physical attraction? Because somehow I must be able to connect with their childhood upbringing love map based on how they appear in the swimsuit ad?
 
So, if I see a photo of someone and think "hot!" it's love, and not just physical attraction? Because somehow I must be able to connect with their childhood upbringing love map based on how they appear in the swimsuit ad?

No -- they connect with your childhood upbringing, based on how they appear in the swimsuit ad. That hot little Swedish number may remind you at some subconscious level of Mrs. Gundersson who lived down the street....

Although if you connect with that hot little Swedish number's childhood upbringing as well, then my compliments -- and best wishes, and congratulations -- to the both of you.
 
No -- they connect with your childhood upbringing, based on how they appear in the swimsuit ad. That hot little Swedish number may remind you at some subconscious level of Mrs. Gundersson who lived down the street....

Although if you connect with that hot little Swedish number's childhood upbringing as well, then my compliments -- and best wishes, and congratulations -- to the both of you.

There are so many things wrong with that, I don't know where to start.

I take it to mean that you don't have any theories for why people are physically -and only physically- attracted to some races outside their own, but not others.
 
There are so many things wrong with that, I don't know where to start.

I'd suggest you start by reading John Money's papers.

I take it to mean that you don't have any theories for why people are physically -and only physically- attracted to some races outside their own, but not others.

No, quite the contrary. I have a well-developed theory supported by quite a bit of evidence.
 
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It won't have any affect on anything except to cause biggots a lot of heartache a priori.
Please show us how you know that this will cause bigots any heartache at all.

That's easy! www.stormfront.org

It is precisely the fear of the elimination of the white race through interbreeding that gets white racists all hot and bothered.
 

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