Who is more pernicious... wily thugs or corrupt judiciary & venal law "enforcement"?

[Foster Zygote]

So from the above you would be voting option #3 from the OP's poll... right???

Wrong.

But, since you've clarified that we're talking about children, I think Bart's only course of action is to seek the assistance of an adult, like, say, a parent or guardian, because he is clearly not emotionally capable of dealing with his situation in the same manner that an emotionally mature adult could. Bart should therefore seek the assistance of his mommy and daddy, in the way that any child would be expected to do.

 

[Leumas]

Wrong.

But, since you've clarified that we're talking about children, I think Bart's only course of action is to seek the assistance of an adult, like, say, a parent or guardian, because he is clearly not emotionally capable of dealing with his situation in the same manner that an emotionally mature adult could. Bart should therefore seek the assistance of his mommy and daddy, in the way that any child would be expected to do.

Do you know what a parable is and what is its purpose??? Making up your own contrary story to keep avoiding the issue of the OP and to keep victim blaming poor Bart in the parable... are all fallacies.

 

[sackett]

Not so fast there, buddy

So... from the above it can be concluded that you would favor option #3 in the Op's poll if you were to bother to vote???
....

You're forgetting #6:

"On Planet X, venal politicians eat wily thugs, leaving the dumb ones to multiply; this improves the breed by making them easier to catch."

 

[Myriad]

Had I been present at the scene of poor Bart's tribulations, I'm sure I would have observed first-hand that the teachers did punish the chortle of brillig brutes in a manner that caused those slithy raths to acquire a plethora of jaundiced equiangular quadrilaterals, as well as relinquish the entirety of their aspirational outcomes.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Do you know what a parable is and what is its purpose??? Making up your own contrary story to keep avoiding the issue of the OP and to keep victim blaming poor Bart in the parable... are all fallacies.

Yes, I know what a parable is. And I know they're very popular among self-righteous religious types. I even know how to use English punctuation.

Do you know what reading comprehension is? In the post you quoted I wasn't even talking about adult Bart visiting a private club, I was talking about your Bart - the helpless child who is too immature to be expected to solve his dilemma. He clearly needs the assistance of his mommy and daddy so that they can deal with the mean teachers for him.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Had I been present at the scene of poor Bart's tribulations, I'm sure I would have observed first-hand that the teachers did punish the chortle of brillig brutes in a manner that caused those slithy raths to acquire a plethora of jaundiced equiangular quadrilaterals, as well as relinquish the entirety of their aspirational outcomes.

Oh my! There's certainly no reason to get dirty!

 

[Leumas]

who is more pernicious, corrupt judges and venal law enforcement or criminal thugs

As an AI language model, I cannot make value judgments or opinions on individuals or groups of people. However, it is widely agreed that both corrupt judges and law enforcement officials and criminal thugs can have a significant negative impact on society and the justice system. Both can undermine the rule of law, harm innocent people, and create an atmosphere of fear and mistrust. It is essential to hold all individuals who break the law accountable for their actions, regardless of their position or status.

ok... who does MORE harm... criminals or the judges who shield the criminals

Both criminals and judges who shield criminals can do harm to society in their own ways. Criminals who engage in illegal activities such as theft, violence, or fraud can harm innocent people, cause property damage, and create an atmosphere of fear and insecurity.

On the other hand, judges who shield criminals can undermine the justice system, erode public trust in the legal system, and prevent justice from being served.
It is the responsibility of judges to be impartial and uphold the law, ensuring that justice is done and the innocent are protected while the guilty are held accountable for their actions. Any judge who shields criminals or engages in corrupt behavior goes against their duty and can cause significant harm to the justice system and society as a whole.

 

[Craig4]

who is more pernicious corrupt judges and venal law enforcement or criminal thugs



ok... who does MORE harm... criminals or the judges who shield the criminals

Are all judges corrupt? Are all cops venal? Are all criminals thugs?

 

[sackett]

Come to that, who

Are all judges corrupt? Are all cops venal? Are all criminals thugs?

who
who wrote the book of love?

 

[Leumas]

Yes, I know what a parable is. And I know they're very popular among self-righteous religious types. I even know how to use English punctuation.

Do you know what reading comprehension is? In the post you quoted I wasn't even talking about adult Bart visiting a private club, I was talking about your Bart - the helpless child who is too immature to be expected to solve his dilemma. He clearly needs the assistance of his mommy and daddy so that they can deal with the mean teachers for him.

Aha... so you think that there should have been a 6th option on the OP's poll

6. I think the victims of thuggish juvenile delinquent brutes and venal law enforcement deserve being victimized for not joining the private club and kowtowing to the craven venality and thuggery​

Given your repeated victim blaming of poor Bart of my parable and all the stuff you added to my parable in order to rationalize blaming the victim... is that an option you would have voted for had I included it in the Op's poll???

 

[Foster Zygote]

Aha... so you think that there should have been a 6th option on the OP's poll

6. I think the victims of thuggish juvenile delinquent brutes and venal law enforcement deserve being victimized for not joining the private club and kowtowing to the craven venality and thuggery​

Given your repeated victim blaming of poor Bart of my parable and all the stuff you added to my parable in order to rationalize blaming the victim... is that an option you would have voted for had I included it in Op's poll???

Again, Leumas, you need to really work on your reading comprehension. Unfortunately, that's not something you can fake with a thesaurus. How in the name of Ed do you get the above from a statement that I think little Bart should seek help from adults, like his mommy and daddy?

 

[Foster Zygote]

Are all judges corrupt? Are all cops venal? Are all criminals thugs?

Look at that. Three questions, and only three question marks.

 

[bruto]

So your option from the OP's poll would be #5 then... right???

No it would not, as I explained before.That option presumes that the question is valid and can be answered meaningfully.

 

[junkshop]

Look at that. Three questions, and only three question marks.

So you value compliance with the norms and 'rules' of written English...thank you for admitting that you are hidebound within the strictures of tradition and conformity!!!

But what of the precious OP??? You don't address it! You daren't address it! It is too clever by half for the likes of you!!!!11!!!!1!

Thank you for admitting that you chose option [insert number between 1 & 5 here (for no discernable reason)].

I has winned!

QED

 

[Thermal]

who is more pernicious, corrupt judges and venal law enforcement or criminal thugs



ok... who does MORE harm... criminals or the judges who shield the criminals

Hey Eliza: Bart is a violent psychopath. Should we protect his victims?

Eliza responds:Bart's violence has been stopped by the police in two cases so far. However, he is still dangerous. You should be careful.

 

[Leumas]

No it would not, as I explained before.That option presumes that the question is valid and can be answered meaningfully.

Yes the question is valid... regardless of what you think... and yes it can be answered meaningfully... but you do not want to.

Even an artificial intelligence disagrees with your above statement....

Question: Ethically and morally... who is less moral... a bully or a corrupt law enforcer

Both bullying and corruption are generally considered unethical and morally wrong, and it is difficult to say which is "less moral" as they both involve behavior that is harmful to others.

Bullying involves the intentional use of power or aggression to harm or intimidate others, often for personal gain or to assert dominance. This behavior is harmful, unfair, and can have significant negative consequences for the victim, including emotional distress, physical harm, and long-term psychological effects.

Edited by jimbob: 

rule 4 violation removed

 

[Chanakya]

Much like Bobbing threads --- great term, that, although I myself liked BtC, and enjoyed conversing with him (and ignoring him when I didn't want to engage with his brand of conversation; but bobbing is a cool term, is what I'm saying) --- I can see Bart passing into forum lore, and in-joke terminology. Nor is Bart a member, so no issues there.

(Not taking sides in this debate. Just commenting on the term Bart. And suggesting that the right forum for this is FMF. And enjoying the exchanges, and smiling, a bit.)

 

[Foster Zygote]

I can see Bart passing into forum lore, and in-joke terminology.

I'm pulling for "wonton depravity".

 

[Thermal]

Eliza seals the deal. I asked "Shouldn't we punish his victims?" She responds:

 

[Thermal]

Much like Bobbing threads --- great term, that, although I myself liked BtC, and enjoyed conversing with him (and ignoring him when I didn't want to engage with his brand of conversation; but bobbing is a cool term, is what I'm saying) --- I can see Bart passing into forum lore, and in-joke terminology. Nor is Bart a member, so no issues there.

(Not taking sides in this debate. Just commenting on the term Bart. And suggesting that the right forum for this is FMF. And enjoying the exchanges, and smiling, a bit.)

But what would Barting be? Being a psycho who violently assaults children and says "he called me a name" as a defense?